Thursday, June 20, 2019

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 10 topics

Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 20 12:58PM -0400

> can be understood by the average American. When I'm connected with someone
> who can barely be understood I ask for someone who can speak better English
> or someone located in the USA.
 
One time that I called tech support for something and had to wait close
to 40 minutes to talk to someone. When I finally got through the guy
had such a heavy accent that I had to get him to repeat everything three
or four times. At one point he was telling me to click on "castle". I
was looking all over for an icon with a castle,stone walls, a moat, a
parapet, or anything that might look like a castle. I asked if several
times if he was saying "castle" . Yes, and he repeated "castle". It
turned out that he meant "cancel".
 
I had to wonder about the amount of time spent waiting for someone to
talk to and if the reason was that everyone was taking 3-4 times longer
to resolve issues because they were having the same communication problems.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 20 10:45AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 6:55:39 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
 
> I had to wonder about the amount of time spent waiting for someone to
> talk to and if the reason was that everyone was taking 3-4 times longer
> to resolve issues because they were having the same communication problems.
 
I don't have that problem since I'd rather die
than call tech services. The good news is that
these call centers will probably replace people
with AI robots soon.
 
OTOH, there's some people that find they get
great service from offshore call centers. These
people are called "Indians." :)
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 20 11:47AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 12:45:53 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> than call tech services. The good news is that
> these call centers will probably replace people
> with AI robots soon.
 
It has to be an absolute desperate situation for me to make a call to a
company knowing I'll end up talking with someone who can barely communicate.
Some companies do have robots already trying to solve customer service
problems. After you've answered every question they put to you and their
suggestions are not solving your problem THEN they will connect you with a
real human. (A human invariably that has a heavy foreign accent.)
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jun 20 12:53PM -0600

> problems. After you've answered every question they put to you and their
> suggestions are not solving your problem THEN they will connect you with a
> real human. (A human invariably that has a heavy foreign accent.)
 
I have a very heavy, foreign accent: educated, East Anglian English. I
wonder if you would understand me!
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 20 02:57PM -0400

On 2019-06-20 1:45 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
 
> OTOH, there's some people that find they get
> great service from offshore call centers. These
> people are called "Indians." :)
 
One called me this morning and introduced himself as Lester. but he had
a very heavy Indian accent. Nice try Lester.
tert in seattle <tert@ftupet.com>: Jun 20 06:58PM

>problems. After you've answered every question they put to you and their
>suggestions are not solving your problem THEN they will connect you with a
>real human. (A human invariably that has a heavy foreign accent.)
 
I prefer using chat - that way I have a record of what was said as well
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 21 04:33AM +1000


>> Hee hee! Not THOSE types of Indians, Ed! INDIANS, REAL Indians from India! Not indigenous North Americans as we were LIED TO ABOUT all our lives!
 
>The now uppity Europeans are the ones that came to North America
>and totally screwed the North American indians.
 
All the Europeans are uppity? :) Do you know how deplorable that
sounds?
Patrick Dennis Hamilton <5280crane@none.invalid>: Jun 20 02:50PM -0400

Bruce formulated on Thursday :
>> and totally screwed the North American indians.
 
> All the Europeans are uppity? :) Do you know how deplorable that
> sounds?
 
Don't be racist, racism is a crime, and crime is for black people.
 
Pat
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 21 04:07AM +1000

>Why not just use salted butter?
 
>I use both for different reasons but never considered sprinkling
>salt on a slice of buttered toast.
 
I've never heard of salting toast nor have I ever done it. Some people
have weak taste buds so they need all the help they can get.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 20 11:11AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 2:07:06 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >salt on a slice of buttered toast.
 
> I've never heard of salting toast nor have I ever done it. Some people
> have weak taste buds so they need all the help they can get.
 
I have quite good taste buds. They love the taste of salt, in addition
to a myriad other flavors.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 21 04:44AM +1000

On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 11:11:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> have weak taste buds so they need all the help they can get.
 
>I have quite good taste buds. They love the taste of salt, in addition
>to a myriad other flavors.
 
To each their own. I don't like undersalted food, but I don't want to
taste the salt on its own. Although, maybe a bit on an egg or a
chip/crisp...
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 20 10:38AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 12:06:37 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> Ewww. Spam and hotdog. There are many, many other Korean dishes I'd
> rather eat.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
You don't have to use Spam and hotdog. I suppose
luncheon meat and Vienna sausage would work too.
Just use whatever canned meat you got. They left
out the most important part. You have to put a
block of instant noodles with a slice of
American cheese smack dab in the center of the pan.
 
As far as I know, army stew is one of the most
popular of dishes in Korea. It's practically
unknown in the US. My guess is that's going
to change soon.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 20 11:09AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 1:38:19 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> popular of dishes in Korea. It's practically
> unknown in the US. My guess is that's going
> to change soon.
 
I don't have any canned meat. That stuff is just nasty.
 
On the plus side, I went out for Korean at lunch today. Stir-fried
pork and vegetables with a lot of gochujang in it. It was a bento
box, so I also got a fried dumpling, a small serving of chapchae, rice,
and part of a fresh orange. The banchan were kakkdugi and some sort of
leathery tofu marinated in shoyu and something vaguely fishy. Only
the orange peel was left when I paid my tab.
 
Cindy Hamilton
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 20 10:26AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 4:19:20 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> BMW. Or live in a 2000 sq ft house instead of a 5,000. Or take a
> couple of day trips for vacation instead of a week at Disney.
 
> Often it is not "need" but priorities.
 
Hawaii, with its high cost of living, is the home of
working parents. My mom and dad always worked - the
"traditional" stay-at-home mom was never a thing
on this rock.
 
OTOH, I always loved it when my mom would take me
with her during the day. We'd do stuff together.
My dad, not so much. Mostly he'd have me wait in
the hot car while he did stuff. :)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8QSJbmZEoQ
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 20 10:53AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 1:27:00 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> working parents. My mom and dad always worked - the
> "traditional" stay-at-home mom was never a thing
> on this rock.
 
The "traditional" stay-at-home mom has always been the privilege
of the well-to-do. Historically, women worked (often outside the
home), often taking care of the children of their "betters".
 
We had a few decades where that wasn't the case. It was the
anomaly.
 
Cindy Hamilton
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 20 11:03AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 7:53:20 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> We had a few decades where that wasn't the case. It was the
> anomaly.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
The stay at home mom was what was pretty
much expected of women during the 50's and
60's. It is that period of time that I
was talking about - but you already knew
that.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 20 10:14AM -0700


> I buy, usually a gallon of milk per week. Sometimes I will have a bit less
> than a half gallon left then I will buy a half gallon and pour it into the
> gallon container. Needless to say, I drink a lot of milk; always have.
 
We're at about three gallons per week. I suppose if my husband's
shoulders get much worse I'll have to buy it by the half gallon. That'll
be annoying.
 
Cindy Hamilton
A Moose in Love <parkstreetbooboo@gmail.com>: Jun 20 08:17AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 11:10:14 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> ...while Iggy Pop's "Superbabe" was playing over my JBL Control X's and I was eating my breakfast!
 
> And she WAS TOO! :-) I wanna be her BICYCLE SEAT! :-)
 
> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Admirer Of The Beauty Of Human Females!
 
One of my favourite albums is Iggy Pop's 'Lust for Life'. Some comedy on there such as 'Success'. I like the way the chorus comes in behind Iggy. It's pretty funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y3DAFWbhQ4
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 20 08:30AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:17:45 AM UTC-5, A Moose in Love wrote:
 
> > John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Admirer Of The Beauty Of Human Females!
 
> One of my favourite albums is Iggy Pop's 'Lust for Life'. Some comedy on there such as 'Success'. I like the way the chorus comes in behind Iggy. It's pretty funny.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y3DAFWbhQ4
 
I've seen Iggy in concert a FEW times!
 
And Iggy NEVER fails! He IS Rock N Roll! Said he had his Rock-n-Roll epiphany when he saw/heard Link Wray INVENT the Power Chord:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHEmDLQKrrk
 
One of few purely instrumental songs which were BANNED because it sounded confrontational!! Hee hee!
 
John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Rock-n-Roller From Way Back!
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 20 08:35AM -0700


> > John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Admirer Of The Beauty Of Human Females!
 
> Careful there, you'll cause that green-eyed monster to emerge from your brown
> 'lady love.'
 
Lady Love is pursuing a more viable mate, so I am back on The Market!
 
Rich Old White Guy living near the biggest State College in MO!! What a Retirement! :-)
 
John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Damn Those JBL Control Xs Are Loud!
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 20 10:01AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:35:55 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
 
> Lady Love is pursuing a more viable mate, so I am back on The Market!
 
> John Kuthe
 
Smart woman and you were always on 'the market.'
notbob <notbob@q.com>: Jun 20 09:48AM -0600

On 6/17/2019 7:36 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
 
> http://tinyurl.com/yxwnsmgg
 
My mother survived "valley fever" 60 yrs ago.
 
I survived rubella measles in the service. I had the worst case anyone
had ever seen. Everyone in my unit had a couple of red spots. I had
zero white-space between red spots! Spent 4 days in a military hosp.
Zero bad effects, if you don't count the fact it also changed my
"orders" (next assignment) from 3 yrs in France to 18 mos in Libya.
 
I'm not saying I'm an "anti-vaxxer" (Big Pharma love's that term), but I
quit going (and contributing) to free Christmas dinners at the local
church. In the end, it was a buncha kids running around asking geezers
if they wanted a refill on their coffee/pie/etc, and they were all
"infected" with something. A buncha "Walking petri dishes", I think I
called 'em. Put yer kid in school. They'll catch it. ;)
 
nb
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Jun 20 10:28AM -0600

>"infected" with something. A buncha "Walking petri dishes", I think I
>called 'em. Put yer kid in school. They'll catch it. ;)
 
>nb
 
my point in posting the article was to raise awareness of the hazards
and work that go into providing us with food.
What you got from the article was that you had the measles and
probably we can skip vaccines.
A Moose in Love <parkstreetbooboo@gmail.com>: Jun 20 08:39AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 11:06:16 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
 
> D. has done similar. I think it says it all to say that we never travel
> outside of UK now.
 
> We are more than happy to stay here:))
 
I like my own country; Canada. I did rent a house once back in 1975, in Guatemala for one month. I like it better here.
A Moose in Love <parkstreetbooboo@gmail.com>: Jun 20 08:21AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 11:06:16 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
 
> ==
 
> Being an assistant cook you must have learned many good dishes. Did you
> ever make it for yourself?
 
I did roasts, sauces, soups, all from scratch. I'v never made beef wellington, but I have made duck with orange sauce; I have a good orange sauce recipe if you're interested. It's a bit more complicated than usual, the usual sauce made with orange marmalade. You need to make a demi-glace etc. but the demi-glace can be cheated.
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