Tuesday, June 11, 2019

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 15 topics

"Julie Bove" <juliebove@frontier.com>: Jun 11 04:18AM -0700

"Ed Pawlowski" <esp@snet.xxx> wrote in message
news:LGzLE.6882$ZD7.74@fx03.iad...
> to sell salad dressing to kids by calling it "frosting"
 
> https://www.delish.com/food-news/a27890516/kraft-salad-frosting/
 
> https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kraft-salad-frosting_l_5cfaac25e4b04e90f1c8eda0
 
When I was a kid, I loved salad with no dressing. My mom always ate hers
with no dressing. And yet when we went out to eat, she insisted that I try
all the dressings. Why? I don't know. Why spoil a good thing? In my mind, if
I like it like that, let me eat it like that!
 
Angela was the same. She loved salad when she was little. Then about the the
time she entered school, she went off of it. Why? She was given salad
drowned in Ranch dressing. Not by me. She didn't like the dressing. Took a
great many years for her to like salad again. Now she will eat it plain,
with honey mustard or balsamic vinaigrette.
 
Angela and I have always liked our veggies. Not all veggies but quite a lot
of them, especially raw.
 
My brother OTOH has *never* liked veggies. Still doesn't. He has to drown
his salad in blue cheese dressing and even then he eats mainly just the
dressing.
 
I hate it when adults tell kids the wrong name for things. For instance, my
parents used to tell my nephew that he was eating little trees when he ate
broccoli. They told Angela that the letter "S" was called "Sneaky Snake". I
remember her teacher calling me and telling me that she knew all of her
letters except for the letter "S". Doing stuff like that to a kid can be
embarrassing to them and perhaps even damaging if they believe the wrong
information. Can you imagine some kid eating at their friend's house and
asking for the salad frosting?
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 11 07:53AM -0400

Julie Bove wrote:
> letters except for the letter "S". Doing stuff like that to a kid can be
> embarrassing to them and perhaps even damaging if they believe the wrong
> information.
 
I don't see the correlation there, Julie.
jay <jay@mail.com>: Jun 11 06:12AM -0600

On 6/10/19 3:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> wants to sell salad dressing to kids by calling it "frosting"
 
> https://www.delish.com/food-news/a27890516/kraft-salad-frosting/
 
> https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kraft-salad-frosting_l_5cfaac25e4b04e90f1c8eda0
 
It seems to go along with most of the products they produce. Sweet,
salty KRAP. But, they no doubt have a large market share of products
out here. Mainly because most have no idea what a healthy meal should
consist of. And, why would anyone want their kids to learn to smother
their otherwise decent food with something squeezed out of a Kraft
container. We never buy their products.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 11 09:08AM -0400

On 6/11/2019 5:55 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> "Nobody likes dry vegetables"? WTF? I ate buckets of dry vegetables
> before crudites were "invented" in the 1970s.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
I picked up a bottle of Braswell's Vidalia Onion dressing. The first
ingredient was sugar.
 
I just don't get the reasoning of calling a dressing "frosting" to trick
them into eating it. There are better ways of parenting.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 11 07:32AM -0400

Julie Bove wrote:
> > the potato chips.
 
> That's why they are added when serving. You can add them or not. My mom
> topping with chips or saltines. I didn't like the saltines.
 
A topping on any casserole is good, imo. I topped mine with bread
crumbs and a bit of cheese to melt on and brown. It's all
personal choice. If YOU like it, that's all the matters.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 11 09:06AM -0400

Julie Bove wrote:
 
> "A Moose in Love" wrote:
> > i'd like some hunks of mushroom in there and not blended.
 
> You probably like the texture of mushrooms. We don't!
 
LOL! YOu take the cake here, Julie. Always amusing with your
dislikes. One wonders how you are still alive sometimes. ;)
 
I absolutely love all mushrooms as long as they are cooked
a bit in butter, oil, even water.
 
A dry (raw) mushroom in a salad is such a fail here.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 11 09:05AM -0400


> >He doesn't understand about grocery sales and loss leaders.
 
> They may be a loss leader, but they're still an industrial chicken.
> Mankind at its worst.
 
My only point there was that the cheap on sale chicken is no
worse than the expensive chicken (at grocery stores) as far as
raising conditions. All deplorable.
 
One would think though that the mistreated ones might welcome
death more readily vs the free range happy ones just grabbed by
the neck and killed.
 
You mentioned that you have chickens. Do you eat them? Your meat
problem seems to be about the living conditions with commercial
meat but you probably raise yours all happy and stuff. You done
turned all yours into pets, didn't you? :-D
 
I suppose eggs are all ok there as long as you don't have a
rooster. Then we have the abortion issue.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 11 07:28AM -0400

A Moose in Love wrote:
 
> how about stuffed bell peppers. we usually use red bells.
> good stuff. with a bit of tomato sauce.
 
Good one. I like those. Green peppers hollowed out, parboiled
then stuffed with meat-rice-tomato sauce and spices. Topped with
a melty cheese of some variety then baked. Good eats. :)
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 11 07:29AM -0400

dsi1 wrote:
 
> I'd like to use red or yellow peppers but they cost over
> twice the price than the lowly green bell pepper so no dice.
 
Same here. Over twice the price so no thanks. I stick to
the green bell peppers but always cooked a bit.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 11 07:35AM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> They're cooked. That's a no-go for me.
 
> I don't even like green pepper on pizza. And the nasty flavor permeates
> the entire pie, so there's no point picking them off.
 
Seems that we now have a 3rd food princess revealed here. ;)
Janet <Janet@somewhere.com>: Jun 11 01:58PM +0100

In article <5CFF9211.B689A0A5@att.net>, g.majors@att.net says...
 
> Seems that we now have a 3rd food princess revealed here. ;)
 

Stick to what you know, Gary; ferrets and farting.
 
Janet UK
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 11 08:57AM -0400

On 6/11/2019 3:00 AM, Ophelia wrote:
 
> Jill
 
> ===
 
>     I don't have names for anyone, no, not even you!!!
 
The whole thing is silly. Sure, teasing a bit is OK, but when you
denigrate others it says as much about you as it does about them. Maybe
more.
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Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 11 07:53AM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > would be very able to tell them apart, if they weren't Asian (duck).
 
> No, I probably wouldn't. Kids are pretty much all formless blobs to
> me.
 
Same thing with possums. Damn things all look the same.
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhx1p-FqmE2FYlCVDGcS8B59hLJjtDqDpp5ayEC9PHPkMLlE6DcjxxmABzOnCZmkSMGc_66VIoy2XZIEA5T1NGfhBdTjJbCZNFPduo8XqRc5xNlcoDZlD-63HfFCDYRqUcbaOvf9g5wafE/s1600/Wild-Opossum.jpg
 
;-D
Janet <Janet@somewhere.com>: Jun 11 01:23PM +0100

In article <b6e4d433-71de-4a3e-9a4a-4f16037841c8@googlegroups.com>,
angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com says...
> > would be very able to tell them apart, if the weren't Asian (duck).
 
> No, I probably wouldn't. Kids are pretty much all formless blobs to
> me.
 
I feel just the same way about cars, bikes, phones and sports
footwear.
 
Janet UK
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 11 04:59AM -0700

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wxI4KK9ZYo
 
For a Birthday BBQ!! :-)
 
John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Biopsy-ing for Skin Cancer at 10:15AM
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 11 09:18PM +1000

On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 04:14:21 -0700 (PDT), A Moose in Love
 
>> Man, that's bad for the environment! I guess we can't all be Climate
>> Warriors!
 
>bad for the animals unless they're free range. the other day i saw on the tube how pigs are raised. they hardly have room to move. they didn't seem to mind though. one couple were doing the down low.
 
John Kuthe is a Climate Terrorist.
jay <jay@mail.com>: Jun 11 05:44AM -0600

On 6/10/19 8:36 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
 
> And I just unbagged an entire slab of baby back ribs! Washed in cool water, cut up, put freshly ground black pepper, garlic granules, cayenne, sweet paprika, and a sprinkle of brown sugar on both sides and put them all in one BIG Ziplock Freezer bag and before closing put some Worcestershire in too! YUM!! Overnight in Da Sauce and tomorrow on as HOT FIRE! :-) Saucing towards other end of the grill cook!
 
> Now for the Chicken! And I wish I had some FRESH BASIL!! I do but it's DARK!
 
> John Kuthe...
 
Back ribs will cook up far nicer if you don't separate the individual
ribs.. too late. Set your grill up into 2 heat zones. Fire on one side
no fire on the other. A HOT FIRE cook is for sure not the way to
proceed for the best results.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 11 07:31AM -0400

Bruce wrote:
 
> He's trespassing. I don't know if it's a bull or a steer. Every time I
> look at him, he gives me that stare back. I'm not going into that
> field while he's there :)
 
OH....so that's not your kid, eh?
 
Have you ever watched the original "Crocodile Dundee" movie? All
you have to do is walk slowly up to that thing humming and
holding your hand in certain position. Like he did with that
animal (dobie?) in the movie. I thought all Austrailians knew
that trick. heheh ;)
 
Thanks for the pic! :)
Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 11 09:36PM +1000

>> look at him, he gives me that stare back. I'm not going into that
>> field while he's there :)
 
>OH....so that's not your kid, eh?
 
No, we and our neighbours have bad fencing due to frequent flooding
damage, so trespassing and cattle on the road are common.
 
>animal (dobie?) in the movie. I thought all Austrailians knew
>that trick. heheh ;)
 
>Thanks for the pic! :)
 
I'm only 8 years old or so as an Australian, so I leave bull
hypnotising to my elders :)
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 11 07:32AM -0400

Julie Bove wrote:
> contain that which you want to avoid but a single serving has so little that
> they will round down to zero. Go by the ingredients and not what it says per
> serving.
 
Keep in mind too when reading labels. What they call a "serving
size" is usually a ridiculously small amount.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jun 11 07:29AM -0400


> > People with dietary restrictions can fend for themselves! I cook what *I* like! Take it or leave it! And I LOVE BBQ leftovers! They are SO WELL KILLED! :-)
 
> > John Kuthe...
 
> Do I dare ask what the sides will be?
 
Hey it's some celebration bbq. I would add salty fries and beer
on the sides. Worry about healthy vegetables and stuff the next
few meals. ;)
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: Jun 11 12:28PM +0100

> Mowing the path through the woods and back field:
> https://postimg.cc/gallery/2ryu6b70k/
> We enjoy all the outdoor work, sure beats watching TV 24/7.
 
Nice pond. All it needs is a little summer house for shade and serving
chilled cocktails! The woods are lovely too. It's got to be a lot of
work looking after all that.
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