Monday, June 10, 2019

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 12 topics

Jinx the Minx <jinxminx2@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 02:39PM


> How'd you like to get one of those blaring alerts at 11:30 pm or 5:30am?
> It's annoying. It's not like you are going to get up and go out looking
> for the kid who is missing from some place a few hundred miles away.
 
I don't think the point is to get you to go out looking for the kid, but
rather, to alert you if you see something strange going on, or see a
kid/kidnapper/car that matches that description. Pretty sure most
people/estranged parents that take kids take them out of the area. At a
"few hundred miles away", that may put them in your area as you leave for
work in the morning, or run errands, etc. Maybe you'll see that car while
fueling up at the gas station that morning, or at the stoplight next to
you. It doesn't do the stolen child much good to alert the public only
during waking business hours. For as few times as it happens each year, is
it really that much of a nuisance? Have some compassion, man, it is
someone's child, or grandchild. Maybe someday a relative of yours.
 
Furthermore, any dolt with half a brain cell should be able to figure out
that you can shut off Amber alerts on any cell phone so they are never seen
or heard at all. GIYF.
Michael OConnor <mpoconnor7@aol.com>: Jun 10 08:46AM -0700

I won't ever have one of those smart phones that has internet and everything on it; those are every bit as addictive as crack and heroin. I have what I refer to as a dumb phone, one of those cheap flip phones that I buy a 30 dollar card for that pays for two months of service. In an average month I might make 2-3 calls, and I receive 2-3 calls, usually from doctors or from CVS telling me to pick up my prescriptions. We still have a land line, and the only reason we have that is because of the bundling of cable and internet that it is somehow cheaper to also get phone than not to get it, and the only calls we get is from telemarketers, which we ignore, and I guess it is handy to have for an emergency.
 
Everybody I know who has one of those smart phones, they cannot go more than two minutes without picking them up. This was most annoying when I was in the business sector, and I would walk past people's cubes, and half of them would be on their phones. Checking Facebook or Twitter, texting somebody, reading a text, looking at pictures, sending emails; at a guess, I would estimate people with smart phones spend about at least one hour of their work day on their cell phones.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 10 09:17AM -0700

On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 10:46:09 AM UTC-5, Michael OConnor wrote:
 
> I won't ever have one of those smart phones that has internet and everything on it; those are every bit as addictive as crack and heroin. I have what I refer to as a dumb phone, one of those cheap flip phones that I buy a 30 dollar card for that pays for two months of service.
 
Get one of the one year service cards and be done with it until next year.
 
> Everybody I know who has one of those smart phones, they cannot go more than two minutes without picking them up.
 
I have a smart phone and it's turned on once or twice a month. But I agree,
it is annoying and I would venture to say that 50% of the fender benders
around here are due to the driver has his/her nose stuck on their screen
and not paying attention.
 
I see you sitting next to me with your head bowed and looking down while we
are waiting at a red light. No, you are not praying or meditating; you're playing on your phone. You jerk back to reality when the car behind you
toots their horn so you will go when the light turns green and has been
green for several seconds.
penmart01@aol.com: Jun 10 12:19PM -0400


>>Jill
 
>So when you are out you never notice other people/children, your eyes
>are blind to them? How very self-centred!
 
 
Um, noticing and examining are two very different things. I notice
people but I don't compare them to mugshots. And often the picture of
a six year old was taken at least a year prior... kid doesn't look
like that anymore. And if someone went about staring at little kids
on the street it's likely someone would call the cops.
When I'm out and about I don't look at little kids but I'll definitely
check out their mommies.
I don't think it's any of my business to look for lost kids unless
it's a kid I know and see often like a neighbor's kid. I'm not going
to concern myself with a lost kid from many miles away. Actually
living here I rarely see any kids, it's very rural here and mostly
older and retired people live on this road and their kids are grown
and live elsewhere. The only time I see any kids is when I go into
town to shop and I see very young hids in a car seat strapped into the
shopping cart being pushed by who I'll assume is their mommy... and I
know why the hot young chick is a mommy. Nowadays mommies don't shop
with their toddlers, those are mostly in day care and mommy has a JOB.
I very rarely see young women grocery shopping, it's mostly seniors
shopping, the only young women in the store are a few operating a
check out register. Most of the checkers here are middle aged guys.
Much of the population here is operating a family farm, from the time
their kids can walk they have chores... chores before school and after
school chores... it's not uncommon here to see 5-6 year olds driving
tractors, plowing fields. baling hay etc. At 2 years old they can work
in the vegetable garden pulling weeds and picking crops. At 3 years
old they're tending livestock.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 09:49AM -0700

On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 11:46:09 AM UTC-4, Michael OConnor wrote:
> I won't ever have one of those smart phones that has internet and everything on it; those are every bit as addictive as crack and heroin.
 
Only if you allow yourself to become addicted. I have all that
stuff available on my phone, but I never use it.
 
Cindy Hamilton
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jun 10 10:52AM -0400

A Moose in Love wrote:
> i have switched from using red bells to using green bell peppers when i make a stew such as goulash. i like their aroma better when they are cooking, better than the aroma of the reds. they are not as sweet. as for eating raw peppers, i don't like the greens. i like raw bell red pepper on a cheese sandwich.
 
i like red peppers the best, but only certain ones as i grew
some last year that weren't all that good in comparison to
previous years' peppers.
 
i will eat several a day when they start coming in. some
years i've had as many as 30something plants, this year i
only put in 9 plants (3 of each of red, green and yellow).
greens get used for salads and chili, reds for fresh eating
or cooking, yellow i don't know if i even like them so
we'll see.
 
 
songbird
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 10 09:06AM -0700

On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 5:07:15 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> I've got to ask: If you don't like bell peppers, why did you open
> a thread entitled "cooking with bell peppers"?
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
To see what their results were and hoping for something different but I was
disappointed; same old, same old.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 09:47AM -0700


> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> To see what their results were and hoping for something different but I was
> disappointed; same old, same old.
 
Hard to argue with that. I often read threads that feature
uninteresting ingredients or techniques, but sometimes I wait
for a dozen or so posts to accumulate.
 
I myself don't like cooked peppers (unless very, very gently
cooked as in a Chinese stir fry), except for roasted red bell
peppers, which I like to roast at home then slice up the soft
peppers and add garlic and olive oil.
 
Raw peppers are always good for me. Any color.
 
Cindy Hamilton
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Jun 10 08:03AM -0600

On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 08:49:01 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
>news:j38rfe9j152ad5eorval2p4psnlfco09qa@4ax.com...
snip
>Janet US
 
>===
 
> LOL waste not, want not <g>
 
sounds good on paper except when the plastic is containing 50 pounds
of potting soil or fertilizer. :(
Janet US
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Jun 10 12:48AM -0700

In article <8a8rfe5toabiir07ipboluaisa1u8mjf5b@4ax.com>, Bruce
 
> When one researcher says yes, another one will say no. They both get
> paid for their work.
 
And one should keep that in mind while they're building their
philosophy.
 
[ObFood] Ham hocks and beans "again". I've sold my wife on precooked
carrots mixed in. She is cutting back on carbs so no crunchy French
bread to sop up the juice.
Tomorrow, we're having sirloin steak, microwaved broccoli and, Oh...I
don't know, small portions of mashed potatoes?
 
leo
Janet <Janet@somewhere.com>: Jun 10 05:25PM +0100

In article <5CFE4A95.E283A263@att.net>, g.majors@att.net says...
> This recent Va.Beach mass killing is turning out to be due to
> workplace bullying. That guy passed and smiled to certain people
> even while he was killing others. He had a hit list.
 
Nothing I've found on line confirmns either of your claims, that he
was bullied or had a hitlist.
 
Can you provide a link?
 
Janet UK
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 10 08:37AM +0100

"jmcquown" wrote in message news:aPgLE.18370$uq.4563@fx31.iad...
 
On 6/9/2019 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
 
> ====
 
> I do wish you wouldn't respond when she says that. The idea of
> anyone feeling that sad old cow makes me want to throw up!
 
I cringe when Joan calls you that. Still, I haven't seen you objecting
to Bruce calling me "McBiddy". Is there a difference?
 
Jill
===
 
I was speaking to Bruce.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 10 09:11AM -0700

With INCREASED Foot-Pullback resistance!
 
And I mean RIPPED!! :-) Now for a shower! And to collect BBQ supplies for tomorrow evening's Birthday BBQ! A housemate's Bday today, but he will be back home tomorrow!
 
John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Social Butterfly!
penmart01@aol.com: Jun 10 10:02AM -0400

On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 12:55:05 +0100, Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>I am not talking about meadow but cultivated grass lawns. Here we see
>sprinklers and hosepipes for watering lawns and they consume vast amounts
>of drinking water over a growing season.
 
I don't mow my four acre wildflower meadow... but at the end of the
growing season I brush hog it. I do mow ten acres of cultivated lawn,
once a week, weather permitting... this spring there was too much rain
so I couldn't now at all, and even now that's there's been a break in
the rain I got about half mowed, most is still too wet, the tractor
will bog down. I also mow cultivated lawn paths through the woods and
around and through the wildflower meadow. The only watering I do is
to occasionally water the vegetable garden and when planting new
shrubs/trees. The topsoil here is very rich and deep so there's no
need to water. I can only photograph a small part of my cultivated
lawn unless I go up in a helicopter. Here's just maybe 1/3 of the
back yard from my deck, in spring before the trees leafed out. I mow
that path trhough the woods and then another four acre cultivated lawn
at the rear of the property. I really don't know what you mean by
cultivated lawn, the parts I mow are grass and flat, I use no
chemicals and it rains more than enough here.
https://postimg.cc/3dssB4jN
We have two tractors, my wife uses the smaller tractor to mow the
edges and around trees. There's a natural spring fed stream that runs
along the low side of that side field so we really can't mow the wet
part until until hot weather when it dries. That stream runs right
alongside our vegetable garden so we rarely need to water it:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/2foe9fqys/
Brush hogging the wildflower meadow and around our pond... brush
hogging keeps the meadow healthy In the last photo that's a Dawn
Redwood I planted. That pond is 20' deep, contains fish and snapping
turtles That pond is spring fed, and there are several vernal ponds
in that meadow:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/133xzazwk/
We have a creek in front, it's planted out with lots of daffodils that
bloom in early spring, about the only thing the deer won't eat:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/2nf8xkchw/
Here you can see the small stream passing by our vegetable garden.
Sometimes when it's hot and it gets dryer I can straddle mow it. You
can make out the muddy tracks from the tractor tires... need to mow
there in four wheel drive:
https://postimg.cc/jLSDYh5W
Mowing the path through the woods and back field:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/2ryu6b70k/
We enjoy all the outdoor work, sure beats watching TV 24/7.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 10 08:54AM -0700

On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 8:25:21 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
 
> Some people are obsessive about green lawns. Grass is hard to kill. No
> matter how brown it turns it is likely to spring right back as soon as
> it gets a little rain.
 
Some of my neighbors in the past were obsessive about watering their lawns and
keeping them green. I never watered my grass and it always sprung back to green
with a good rain and I was not paying a huge water bill at the end of the month.
Nor did I make extra work for myself by having grass that was shooting up in an
astonishing rate due to all the irrigation and constantly mowing.
Janet <Janet@somewhere.com>: Jun 10 04:58PM +0100

In article <XnsAA69E2DFF862537B93@81.171.118.178>,
pamela.poster@gmail.com says...
 
> > I'd plant 9/10 of that with a ground cover that does not need mosing.
> > I've not cut grass for three years now.
 
> Lawns are also very wasteful of tap water.
 
None of my lawns have ever drunk tap water.
 
Janet UK
Janet <Janet@somewhere.com>: Jun 10 05:04PM +0100

In article <XnsAA6A8450E3FF237B93@81.171.92.183>,
pamela.poster@gmail.com says...
> > that time of year I have lots of water in the well.
 
> If we Brits get a dry summer then watering the garden almost turns into a
> national pastime -- until the officials declare a ban.
 
Scotland and Wales don't have summers dry enough for lawns to need
watering. Or hosepipe bans.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-44858356
 
Janet UK
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 10 11:05AM -0400

On 6/10/2019 8:41 AM, Gary wrote:
 
> LOL. How's your new goat barn doing, Ed?
> Sheldon also eats mystery meat as he doesn't raise his own
> cattle.
 
Aside from the goats trying to get back in, its been fine.
 
We had the hottest May on record. Sort of a preview of what summer will
be like. We did not see much of last winter so I think it made the
transition to warmer climate easier. Could not live here without AC
though.
 
Overall, very happy with the house, the neighborhood, and everything
around us. Utilities are cheaper too. Electric rate about half what I
paid in CT. The cost of AC in summer is less than the cost of heating
up north. At almost 6 months, everything good so far.
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: Jun 10 04:15PM +0100

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news:IkuLE.22054$3T5.6775@fx45.iad...
 
On 6/10/2019 8:41 AM, Gary wrote:
 
> LOL. How's your new goat barn doing, Ed?
> Sheldon also eats mystery meat as he doesn't raise his own
> cattle.
 
Aside from the goats trying to get back in, its been fine.
 
We had the hottest May on record. Sort of a preview of what summer will
be like. We did not see much of last winter so I think it made the
transition to warmer climate easier. Could not live here without AC
though.
 
Overall, very happy with the house, the neighborhood, and everything
around us. Utilities are cheaper too. Electric rate about half what I
paid in CT. The cost of AC in summer is less than the cost of heating
up north. At almost 6 months, everything good so far.
 
==
 
Brilliant:) It is good to hear you are both so happy in your new
place:))
 
Big moves don't always live up to the promises:))
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 10 08:42AM -0700

On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 10:05:19 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> We did not see much of last winter so I think it made the
> transition to warmer climate easier. Could not live here without AC
> though.
 
Ah yes, gotta have that a/c here in the lovely and _humid_ South.
Temperatures can be sweltering and throw in the humidity and everybody
just wilts.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 07:04AM -0700

On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 9:17:54 AM UTC-4, A Moose in Love wrote:
> pork goulash. i purchased a couple of boneless pork chops; sirloin end. sauteed cooking onion, green bell pepper and garlic in a bit of canola oil. until soft. added one ripe roma, cut into 1/4 rounds. let them get soft. added paprika, and a cheat: a chicken cube. i purchase the stuff that's imported from poland, i find those cubes to be more flavourful and not as artificial tasting. stir the mess around for a few minutes, add a few dashes of hot sauce, and water. then add the pork. simmer until almost tender, then add diced potatoes. cook till done. add salt if needed.
> i don't use a thickener, so is it a soup or stew? it's a main course.
 
IMHO a stew doesn't need a thickener. It's about the ratio of
liquid to solids.
 
Cindy Hamilton
A Moose in Love <parkstreetbooboo@gmail.com>: Jun 10 08:08AM -0700

On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 10:04:53 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> IMHO a stew doesn't need a thickener. It's about the ratio of
> liquid to solids.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
the paprika does thicken a bit. if you add tomato paste like i used to, it thickens a bit as well. i use only fresh tomatoes now. other than that, i don't thicken stews. otoh, when using sour cream in a stew such as a stroganoff, the flour used in thickening helps the sour cream to remain stable and not separate. it won't separate though if you just warm through. it will separate(no flour) if you simmer/boil it.
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Jun 09 11:10PM -0700


> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
 
> > V tbg lbhe onpx ba snfg sbbq Tnel. Avpr gb frr lbh qvqa'g trg fubg!
 
> ieitn gi goent mobeelju wq toulden. ;0
 
That ain't Rot-13 :)
 
V tbg lbhe onpx ba snfg sbbq Tnel. Avpr gb frr lbh qvqa'g trg fubg!
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I got your back on fast food Gary. Nice to see you didn't get shot!
and
ieitn gi goent mobeelju wq toulden. ;0
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vrvga tv tbrag zborrywh jd gbhyqra. ;0
 
C'mon, dude! My newsreader has a Rot-13 parser. Doesn't everybody's?
 
For anyone who doesn't know and cares at all, Rot-13 is move every
letter of the alphabet forward thirteen letters, and when you get to
the end, cycle back to "a" thru "m". Everything else is ignored.
Gary becomes Tnel, son of Jor-El, so be cautious when teasing him ;)
 
leo
Jinx the Minx <jinxminx2@yahoo.com>: Jun 10 02:26PM

>> the potato chips.
 
> That is the original 50s recipe.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuna_casserole
 
That was an interesting read, but I'd quibble with a couple "facts" it
lists. As a lifelong Minnesotan, home of the "hotdish" (aka casserole),
I've eaten a lot of tuna casserole in my time. And I do mean a LOT. I've
never once encountered it with onion in it, nor corn, and cheese only
occasionally (personally I think cheese isn't a benefit to it). It also
takes longer than 30 minutes to assemble and cook, more like an hour.
penmart01@aol.com: Jun 10 10:15AM -0400

On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 00:00:41 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
 
>> https://i.postimg.cc/Gmj7NpcR/chicken-drummies.jpg
 
>It's too late to come over, isn't it?
 
>leo
 
Leave some for me... baked chicken is my favorite.
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