- On the 4th day God Created the Pastrami Reuben - 4 Updates
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- Has anyone here seen any effects of the virus in US? - 1 Update
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- OT I DIDN'T get the job, but at least I got a Mask out of the deal! - 4 Updates
- OT.... a movie to get you through Covid 19 isolation - 4 Updates
- On the 4th day God Created the Pastrami Reuben - 1 Update
- OT: The Death of the Department Store [NY Times article] - 1 Update
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| Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Apr 21 08:07PM -0500 On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 20:27:00 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote: > Had to look again... looks cooked way too rare... looks disgusting... > that's definitely not pastrami. I'd say that's eye round cooked way > too rare. Blah, blah, blah. Anything else, ya ignorant psycho? -sw |
| Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Apr 21 08:09PM -0500 On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 19:42:24 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: >> https://i.postimg.cc/rmGRRJqt/Sandwich-4-day-Pastrami-Reuben.jpg >> -sw > Been years since I made pastrami. Sure looks good. This was a Choice tri-tip. Much less hassle to make than a brisket that needs cooked for 12-18 hours. -sw |
| Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Apr 21 08:52PM -0500 On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 18:08:46 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > brown the bread. Nothing against your way, I just really don't like > the feel of hot greasy food. > Janet US Huh? Its not greasy at all. You use much less butter (or olive oil) by buttering the pan than you do the bread, and you get a much more even coat. You're not deep frying it. -sw |
| Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Apr 21 09:45PM -0500 On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 16:35:24 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote: > https://i.postimg.cc/cHPTMLhk/My-Mask.jpg > Decorated it myself at home! :-) Good. They got the message. That's the third time "I got a job!" and you didn't. -sw |
| "cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Apr 21 09:21PM -0500 Gary wrote: > alternative > was Hillary. I still think we chose right. Feel free to keep > on crying at least until next November. Yes, the election in the end, was 'who do you hate the least' and people hated Trump least. Clinton only won in the 'gimme stuff' areas. |
| dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Apr 21 07:41PM -0700 On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:22:05 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote: > > on crying at least until next November. > Yes, the election in the end, was 'who do you hate the least' and > people hated Trump least. Clinton only won in the 'gimme stuff' areas. You might be right about that. OTOH, the chump is all about giving out handouts to his rich buddies. That don't hardly seem fair to me. Is this a republic of the people or of the rich? Don't answer that. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/14/analysis-reveals-rotten-un-american-giveaway-gop-buried-covid-19-relief-package |
| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Apr 22 12:43PM +1000 >> on crying at least until next November. >Yes, the election in the end, was 'who do you hate the least' and >people hated Trump least. Clinton only won in the 'gimme stuff' areas. The world according to cshenkie :) |
| graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Apr 21 07:56PM -0600 On 2020-04-21 3:37 p.m., Dave Smith wrote: >> with nothing in the way of N-95 masks and equivalent protection. > They could wear all that stuff at work, but then they go home to their > crowded apartments. That may be so but have you noticed that large abattoirs throughout the USA are similar hotspots for the virus? |
| Terry Coombs <snag_one@msn.com>: Apr 21 09:03PM -0500 On 4/21/2020 6:24 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> and crochety - and armed . >> Get outta my woods ! > It's all a matter of perception. You believe that not knowing you have the virus is a good thing. That it means we're somehow protected. I see it as very bad news i.e., it can pretty much be spread undetected and unchecked. The reality is that in order to prevent the most amount of deaths, we have to isolate ourselves from each other. Your reality is that you're willing to take a 3 or 4 percent or more death toll in order to keep the American way of life moving. it is people like you that should be ignored. OTOH, as I said, it's all a matter of perception. So much spin on my words that I'm getting dizzy . Do you by chance have a liberal arts degree from a liberal university ? -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
| dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Apr 21 07:36PM -0700 On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:03:25 PM UTC-10, Terry Coombs wrote: > Yes , I'm old > and crochety - and armed . > Get outta my woods ! I don't have any interest in spinning your words. You got a right to voice your opinions, the same as any other American. OTOH, if you feel the need to give out your opinion on my opinion, you can count on me giving my opinion on your opinion of my opinion. That's fair, right? My suggestion is that you use this forum to clarify and explain what your position is - or don't. I don't care what you do - just as long as you leave me out if it. |
| "cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Apr 21 08:58PM -0500 Gary wrote: > I might one day call Carol a saint as she does care for > and support her friends and local neighbors. > Big difference. Grin, I am no saint but I do care about my neighbors and try to help. Many others here probably do as well but it isn't mentioned. My current effort is a lady and her 3 kids with Celiac (genetic, runs in family). She's being hit with many issues at the same time and they are all high risk. The main organizer is a lady named Lisa. There are some 20 folks donating every 2 weeks because she can't use the food banks (we checked, doesn't work here for her). Amazing how many folks do a GF attempted (or low GF) are coming up with all sorts of stuff! I concentrate on frozen meats and things that have to be cold because the lady is near me so when Lisa picks up, I am last stop at about 10-15 minutes away. Everyone else has to expect 1 hour or more in a hot car so have to stick to shelf stable. It's pretty amazing to watch but I am not the center star (nor do I need to be). I am one of 20. Now Lisa? She's an angel! |
| "cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Apr 21 08:28PM -0500 Dave Smith wrote: > > commercially available or are west coast only. Some I do not get as > > not sustainable but doesn't mean I haven't had them in the past > > when we didn't know that. I'm with ya Dave. Considering how much seafood we eat, my dislikes are very small. If I had no other, I'd eat Mackeral. Muddy tasting doesnt really bother me so Tilapia and Catfish have a home, but I prefer farm raised as they are less muddy. Something in the texture of the catfish makes it more preferred while Tilapia is more like cod so falls lower on my 'A team list'. I have others I like well but they tend to not have standard english names or availabilty for most of us, so not much point mentioning them. |
| "cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Apr 21 08:31PM -0500 jmcquown wrote: > Nope. My nose can tell the difference. If it had smelled even > slightly spoiled I never would have cooked it in the first place. > Jill I don't particularily care for mahi-mahi. It's the texture of it when cooked. Simply doesn't appeal to me. |
| jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Apr 21 09:39PM -0400 On 4/20/2020 11:53 AM, Gary wrote: >> and sadly, it's not something I can dangle a string in the water with >> *any* bait and catch off the coast of South Carolina. ;) > Alaskan king crab tastes exactly like blue crab. It does not. > A bit pricey but certainly much easier to eat. > note: don't waste your money on the cheaper and inferior > "snow crap." (spelling intentional) Whatever, dude. Jill |
| Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Apr 21 07:40PM -0500 John Kuthe wrote: >> Greg > STFU you STUPID INGRATE!! Worthless SCUM!! > John Kuthe... Not to worry. Fruce will be here soon to tell him off properly for you. |
| "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Apr 21 06:08PM -0700 On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 6:35:27 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote: > https://i.postimg.cc/cHPTMLhk/My-Mask.jpg > Decorated it myself at home! :-) > John Kuthe... I thought today was orientation day. Orientation is when you've already been hired and you are there to learn how the company/service is run. |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Apr 21 06:19PM -0700 > > John Kuthe... > I thought today was orientation day. Orientation is when you've already been > hired and you are there to learn how the company/service is run. Kinda like "I'm a little bit pregnant", lol... -- Best Gre |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Apr 21 06:27PM -0700 John Kuthe wrote: > > Best > > Greg > STFU you STUPID INGRATE!! Worthless SCUM!! "Kootchie Koo...Kooky Cuckoo...I SEE Y - O - U ... !!!" Bwahahahahahaaaa....!!!! -- Best Greg |
| dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Apr 21 05:29PM -0700 On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 1:24:50 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote: > Kruschev. Jeffrey Tambor plays Georgy Malenkov and Michael Palin plays > Molotov. It was hilarious. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukJ5dMYx2no That looks like my kind of movie. Thanks! |
| graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Apr 21 06:48PM -0600 On 2020-04-21 5:25 p.m., Dave Smith wrote: > Of Stalin is a very black comedy loosely based on the events surrounding > the death of Stalin and Kruschev's rise to power. Steve Buscemi plays > Kruschev. Why? He's nothing like him!! |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Apr 21 09:00PM -0400 On 2020-04-21 8:48 p.m., graham wrote: >> surrounding the death of Stalin and Kruschev's rise to power. Steve >> Buscemi plays Kruschev. > Why? He's nothing like him!! I wasn't involved in the casting. Despite it being loosely based on Stalin's death and the power struggle to replace him, it is a comedy, and Buscemi's performance is terrific. Jeffrey Tambor and Michael Palin are in it too. |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Apr 21 06:16PM -0700 graham wrote: > > the death of Stalin and Kruschev's rise to power. Steve Buscemi plays > > Kruschev. > Why? He's nothing like him!! "Suspension of disbelief", graham...!!! -- Best Greg |
| "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Apr 21 06:13PM -0700 On 4/21/2020 7:00 PM, Sqwertz wrote: > > Cured 3 days with smoked black pepper, crushed coriander, salt, cure > > #1. Smoked 2 hours @ 120F, sous vide 134F for 5 hours. > > https://i.postimg.cc/fywtc9bq/Pastrami-Tri-Tip.jpg THAT looks lipsmacking! |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Apr 21 06:13PM -0700 Higbee's...Wanamaker's...Jordan Marsh...Hecht's...Marshall Field & Co...Robinson's...Gimbels...Rich's...Monkey Wards...Korvettes...Bonwit Teller...Filene's...Woodward & Lothrop...The Bon-Ton...Abraham & Strauss...City of Paris... "Ask any skydiver what happens when you make a major mistake..." ;-) https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/business/coronavirus-department-stores-neiman-marcus.html The Death of the Department Store: 'Very Few Are Likely to Survive' Shuttered flagships. Empty malls. Canceled orders. Risks of bankruptcy. The coronavirus has hit the behemoths of the retail world. By Sapna Maheshwari and Vanessa Friedman April 21, 2020 "American department stores, once all-powerful shopping meccas that anchored malls and Main Streets across the country, have been dealt blow after blow in the past decade. J.C. Penney and Sears were upended by hedge funds. Macy's has been closing stores and cutting corporate staff. Barneys New York filed for bankruptcy last year. But nothing compares to the shock the weakened industry has taken from the coronavirus pandemic. The sales of clothing and accessories fell by more than half in March, a trend that is expected to only get worse in April. The entire executive team at Lord & Taylor was let go this month. Nordstrom has canceled orders and put off paying its vendors. The Neiman Marcus Group, the most glittering of the American department store chains, is expected to declare bankruptcy in the coming days, the first major retailer felled during the current crisis. It is not likely to be the last. "The department stores, which have been failing slowly for a very long time, really don't get over this," said Mark A. Cohen, the director of retail studies at Columbia University's Business School. "The genre is toast, and looking at the other side of this, there are very few who are likely to survive." At a time when retailers should be putting in orders for the all-important holiday shopping season, stores are furloughing tens of thousands of corporate and store employees, hoarding cash and desperately planning how to survive this crisis. The specter of mass default is being discussed not just behind closed doors but in analysts' future models. Whether or not that happens, no one doubts that the upheaval caused by the pandemic will permanently alter both the retail landscape and the relationships of brands with the stores that sell them. At the very least, there is expected to be an enormous reduction in the number of stores in each chain, which once sprawled across the American continent like a pack of many-headed hydras. Department store chains account for about 30 percent of the total mall square footage in the United States, with 10 percent of that coming from Sears and J.C. Penney, according to a January report from Green Street Advisors, a real estate research firm. Even before the pandemic, the firm expected about half of mall-based department stores to close in the next five years. Even as they have worked to transform themselves for e-commerce with apps, websites and in-store exchanges, the outbreak has laid bare how dependent the department stores have remained on their physical outposts. Macy's said on March 30 that after closing its stores for nearly two weeks, it had lost the majority of its sales. The Commerce Department's retail sales report for March, released last week, was disastrous. Overall retail sales numbers for this month are expected to be even worse, given that some stores were open for at least part of March. Retailers have begun taking extreme measures to try to survive. Le Tote, a subscription clothing company that acquired Lord & Taylor last year from Hudson's Bay, said in a memo on April 2 that the chain's entire executive team, including the chief executive, would be let go immediately. It also suspended payments of goods to vendors for at least 90 days, citing "immense pressure on our liquidity position." Macy's, which also owns Bloomingdale's, extended payment for goods and services to 120 days from 60 days and, according to Reuters, has hired bankers from Lazard to explore new financing. Jeff Gennette, the chief executive, is forgoing any compensation for the duration of the crisis. The company was dropped from the S&P 500 last month based on its valuation. J.C. Penney has hired Lazard, the law firm Kirkland & Ellis and the consultancy AlixPartners to explore restructuring options, according to two people familiar with the matter, and confirmed that it skipped an interest payment on its debt last week. It is expected to make a decision on what to do, including potentially filing for bankruptcy, within a few weeks, one of the people said. But none of them were in as immediate dire straits as Neiman Marcus, which has both an enormous debt burden — about $4.8 billion, thanks in part to a leveraged buyout in 2013 by the owners Ares Management and the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board — and a raft of expensive rents in the most high-profile shopping destinations, signed during boom times. In late March, Neiman stopped accepting new merchandise and furloughed a large portion of its approximately 14,000 employees as the rumors of bankruptcy began to swirl. Its chief executive, Geoffroy van Raemdonck, announced that he was waiving his salary for April. The brand denied to vendors and its own employees at its sister brand Bergdorf Goodman that it was engaging advisers to explore a bankruptcy filing, but on April 14, S&P downgraded Neiman's credit rating. Last week, the retailer did not make an interest payment that was due on April 15, angering bondholders and further fueling suspicions that a bankruptcy filing was imminent. A spokesperson for Neiman Marcus declined to comment. Even Nordstrom, widely considered the healthiest department store, said this month that it could be facing a "distressed" situation if its physical locations closed to customers for "an extended period of time." Erik and Pete Nordstrom, chief executive and chief brand officer, are both receiving no base salary for at least six months. The chain has stunned some vendors with last-minute cancellations via email in recent days. Across chains, prices for new merchandise sold via e-commerce have already been slashed by 40 percent in some cases. Order cancellations for the pre-fall season — which would normally have started delivering next month — have been increasing. Some brands said shipments have even been turned away upon delivery to warehouses, and extensions of payment terms are cascading through vendors, who are then forced to negotiate with their own manufacturers, marketing agencies, fulfillment centers and landlords. "I've had a showroom for over 30 years, and we have always used the word 'partnership,' when talking about our relationship with the department stores," said Betsee Isenberg of the showroom 10Eleven, which represents numerous brands such as Vince and ATM. "Through 9/11, through 2008, we worked hand in hand with our retailers. This is the first time the onus has been on the brands — many of which are losing millions and millions of dollars because of the canceled orders. It is just not fair that it is survival of the fittest." In a new report, McKinsey refers to the situation as "wholesale Darwinism." The resort season has been canceled entirely, and fall orders have been put on hold, raising questions about what inventory will be left if and when shops reopen and consumers return to stores. "Nobody knows what Q4 will be like, but you have to start putting the orders in now," Sucharita Kodali, a retail analyst at Forrester, said of the holiday season, normally the most lucrative time of the year for the chains. "Some people don't even have the money to put in Q4 orders, and may have to cancel Q4 orders anyway, and it's a mess. There's never been this much uncertainty." Robert Burke, the eponymous founder of a luxury consultancy, said he expected brands to move further away from a wholesale business, focusing on direct-to-consumer and a model with department stores where they control their own space and inventory. Shares of J.C. Penney, which has temporarily shut its more than 800 stores, closed at 23 cents on the dollar last Wednesday after the retailer said it did not make a $12 million interest payment due that day. Brooke Buchanan, a representative, said it was a "strategic decision" in order to take advantage of a 30-day grace period before it was considered in default. Ms. Buchanan said J.C. Penney had "been engaged in discussions with its lenders since mid-2019 to evaluate options to strengthen its balance sheet, a process that has become even more important as our stores have also closed due to the pandemic." Cash flow for all department stores has dropped sharply. In a note on April 13, analysts at Cowen estimated four months of liquidity at Macy's, six months at Kohl's and seven months for J.C. Penney. Nordstrom, they predicted, could withstand store closings for 12 months. "The nature of the mall is if you lose a big anchor like a Macy's, you have co-tenancy issues and you have more pressure on the mall traffic, which was already a big issue," said Oliver Chen, an analyst at Cowen. Co-tenancy clauses typically allow other tenants to demand rent reductions if certain key chains depart. Mr. Chen said that could accelerate the ongoing divide between top-tier malls and the second- or third-choice malls in certain areas. According to a report this month from S&P Global Market Intelligence, department stores were more likely than any other consumer industry to default on their debt in the next year. It estimated the probability at 42 percent. In its April 2 memo, the management of Le Tote and Lord & Taylor said only "key employees" were being retained to preserve the business. A representative for Lord & Taylor and Le Tote declined to comment or disclose the number of employees who were furloughed and laid off. "It appears to be a virtual certainty that Lord & Taylor will liquidate its business in the near future, either in or out of bankruptcy," said James Van Horn, a partner at Barnes & Thornburg and a specialist in retail bankruptcy. "They were already one of the most challenged department stores prior to the coronavirus pandemic, and when the majority of the management team is leaving, the vast majority of employees are laid off and a minority of employees furloughed, there does not seem to be any other strategy but to liquidate the inventory." Mr. Van Horn said he expected that other chains might strategically employ Chapter 11 reorganizations to legally shed stores, lightening their rent burden. "It will likely be a domino that falls," he said. "Whether it is first or 10th, we don't know..." </> Michael J. de la Merced contributed reporting. Contact Sapna Maheshwari at sapna@nytimes.com or Vanessa Friedman at vanessa.friedman@nytimes.com. Sapna Maheshwari covers retail. She has won reporting awards from the Society of American Business Editors and Writers and the Newswomen's Club of New York and was on Time's list of "140 Best Twitter Feeds of 2014." @sapna • Facebook Vanessa Friedman is The Times's fashion director and chief fashion critic. She was previously the fashion editor of the Financial Times. @VVFriedman |
| Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Apr 21 07:41PM -0500 Bruce wrote: >>> The life and times of Dave Smith. >> ... and his ever present, loyal ass-sniffer Druce. > And how would you qualify yourself with regards to Sheldon and me? I urinate on both of you. |
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