Friday, July 10, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 10 topics

Confusor <confusor@sincorreos.net>: Jul 10 11:08AM +0200

A diet to follow between 11 July to 20 July.
 
Essays.
In search of the best diets.
It is suggested to FOLLOW next diet with the relationship
of food more convenient to the season.
 
GROUP: (6/6)
 
CARBOHYDRATES.
barley, Job's tears, maize, millet, oat, rice, rye, sorghum
teff, wheat, tapioca,
 
VEGETABLE PROTEINS.
Brazil nut, cashew, chia seeds, pistachio, safflower seeds,
sesame seeds, sunflower seeds,
 
MEAT.
beef, goat, horse, pork, rabbit, sheep,
 
DAIRY.
butters, cottage cheese, cream cheese, farmer cheese, milk,
 
FERMENTED PRODUCTS.
beers, cheeses, honey, wines,
 
POULTRY.
 
FISH AND SEAFOOD:
crustaceans:
mollusks:
fishes: albacore, anchovy, angler, breams, blue whiting, tuna,
bonito, cod, conger, groupers, frigate tuna, hake, halibut, herring,
horse mackerel, salmons, mackerel, pollack, rainbows, sardine,
trouts, skates, sole, turbot, and so on,
 
OILS.
colza, flax seeds, maize, olive, sesame, sunflower,
 
LIVE FOOD.
artichoke, thistle, bell peppers, cabbages, broccoli,
Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, red cabbage, endive, eggplant,
escarole, Jerusalem artichoke, lettuce, mushrooms,
mustard greens, olives, potato, salsify, radish, turnips,
Chinese cabbage, rutabaga, watercress,
 
FRUITS.
boxthorn, canistel, durian, grapefruit, grapes, groundcherry,
kiwifruit, kumquat, lemon, lime, lychee, mamey sapote, mango, noni,
orange, passion fruit, persimmon, pineapple, pomelo, tangerine,
vacciniums,
 
BEVERAGES.
coffee, chamomile, grapefruit juice, grapes juice, lemon juice,
orange juice, pineapple juice, pomelo juice, sugar cane,
tangerine juice, tea, vaccinium juice,
 
SPICES.
basil, cayenne, chili, paprika, pepper, caper, cocoa, marjoram,
mustard, oregano, peppermint, rosemary, sage, tarragon, thyme,
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Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 10 12:39AM -0500

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 17:51:50 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:
 
 
> Why do you have nasty soybean oil in your kitchen? Peanut oil isn't much pricier. The only neutral oil worthy of cutting olive oil with is high oleic sunflower. Soy and Canola oils belong in biodiesel fuel, and nowhere else.
 
>> -sw
 
> --Bryan
 
Holy Fuck'n A! I've not only summoned one Devil, but TWO of them!
 
Exorcisms now through July - half price - 100% Not Garanteed!!
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 10 12:49AM -0500

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 00:39:30 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
 
> Holy Fuck'n A! I've not only summoned one Devil, but TWO of them!
 
> Exorcisms now through July - half price - 100% Not Garanteed!!
 
How are those pandemic chicken wing tips holding out for you?
 
-sw
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 10 12:33PM +1000

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 16:59:14 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>> eat has to include chillies or sambal.
 
>Are your chilies like cherry tomatoes where one plant seems to produce
>bushels of the crop?
 
Yes. I got many kilos from one plant. This type of (medium hot)
chillie:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishop%27s_crown
 
Next season I want to grow habaneros again, so I need to eat these
chillies to make room.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 09 09:47PM -0700

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 9:33:33 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishop%27s_crown
 
> Next season I want to grow habaneros again, so I need to eat these
> chillies to make room.
 
I've never eaten one of these peppers but it is a beautiful color. Looking
at this picture, it looks like the nose of an old man.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 10 03:45PM +1000

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 21:47:25 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>> chillies to make room.
 
>I've never eaten one of these peppers but it is a beautiful color. Looking
>at this picture, it looks like the nose of an old man.
 
Lol, yes they can have strange shapes.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 10 12:35AM -0500

On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 16:09:49 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:
 
 
>>I do the same, Sheldon. Works great.
 
> I've been using the same bottle and bar pourer for some 55 years, no
> reason to change.
 
Except when you don't want to glug it out.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 09 08:19PM -0500

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 19:35:55 -0400, Alex wrote:
 
> than that. Alternatively, they could use the TU70 for the same 30 year
> warranty in a single layer.  For what you are paying you sure as hell
> should be getting the best product and the maximum warranty!
 
It looks like they're just going to re-felt with #40 and reattach
the tile, possibly replacing some of it with used tile.
 
I see some torch-down hoses, but I'm thinking they have that for
bitumen valleys and flashing if John says there's also a brake
there, too.
 
<shrug>
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 09 08:32PM -0500

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 20:19:23 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
 
 
> I see some torch-down hoses, but I'm thinking they have that for
> bitumen valleys and flashing if John says there's also a brake
> there, too.
 
I forgot about the decking. When they milk him for 3/4" CDX+ on a
5/12 roof with all those gables at $80/hour... Fuck Him!
 
Alex Trebec is offering life insurance and Tom Seleck is offering
Reverse Mortgages. Better deal than Old World Roofing!
 
Sorry John, just trying to add perspective.
 
-sw
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 09 10:07PM -0400

On 7/9/2020 9:10 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
 
> <sigh> Look at the other pictures, you stupid fucking imbecile.
 
> It doesn't matter even if it was.
 
> -sw
 
If water sprayed and fried the electric there are other problems.
Unless in never rains and wind never blows in da Lou.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 09 10:02PM -0500

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 22:07:17 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
 
>> It doesn't matter even if it was.
 
> If water sprayed and fried the electric there are other problems.
> Unless in never rains and wind never blows in da Lou.
 
Now see? That's what I should have pointed out.
 
Thanks, Ed. For the voice of reason. Sometimes we get caught up in
other agendas. We should work on that.
 
And maybe I should call John more often now that I've broken the
ice.
 
-sw
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 10 01:06PM +1000

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 22:02:16 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
 
>other agendas. We should work on that.
 
>And maybe I should call John more often now that I've broken the
>ice.
 
I think you two would make a great team for a reality show.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 10 12:33AM -0500

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 18:17:23 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
 
>> in...
 
>> With his .... Dodge Caravan?
 
> 2008 Grand Caravan.
 
OooooooOOOH! I'm surprised I got that right.
 
I'm almost sure I lost my virginity in a 1984 Dodge Caravan in 1983.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 10 12:24AM -0500

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:19:57 -0700 (PDT), bruce2bowser@gmail.com
wrote:
 
> On 7/9/2020 11:31 AM, graham wrote:
>> "Sur la table" has just filed. Could Williams-Sonoma be far behind?
 
> I heard that back in 2011, the last Swiss Chalet in the US closed.
 
Totally related.
 
-sw
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 09 10:12PM -0400

On 7/9/2020 7:36 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> at 225F over mostly oak and pecan for 3.5 hours.
 
> https://i.postimg.cc/BQjTGF5p/Pasmtrami-Smoked.jpg
> https://i.postimg.cc/VkMXJcVb/Pastrami-Smoked.jpg
 
Looks good enough to eat. Just can't beat home made.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 09 11:56PM -0500

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 22:12:49 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
 
>> https://i.postimg.cc/BQjTGF5p/Pasmtrami-Smoked.jpg
>> https://i.postimg.cc/VkMXJcVb/Pastrami-Smoked.jpg
 
> Looks good enough to eat. Just can't beat home made.
 
Well, you and I both know that home made pastrami doesn't really
resemble commercial pastrami. It's great - like Montreal Smoked Meat
- But not quite United States pastrami for some reason.
 
It must be the New Yawk humidity. Or perhaps Bruce can ejucuate us
on the proper additives.
 
-sw
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 09 10:31PM -0400

I make minor variations every time I make meatloaf but all are similar.
 
Typical mix:
Ground beef 80/20 is the leanest I use
Egg
Panko
Sour cream
Ketchup
Dehydrated onions.
 
Today though, instead of ketchup I used Braswell's Vidalia Onion Summer
Tomato dressing. It has a really nice tangy tomato flavor.
 
I put the formed meat in the center of a cast iron pan or a Pyrex dish.
 
https://www.braswells.com/product/Vidalia_Onion_Summer_Tomato_Dressing/vidalia-onion
 
I cut up a potato to chunks and also a Japanese Sweet Potato. Saw them
at the Farm stand a few weeks ago. tried on and like them. It has a red
skin and the meat inside is white. All the chunks are tossed in a
little olive oil and then put in the pan around the meat.
 
350 degrees for 60 to 75 minutes.
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jul 09 07:34PM -0700

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> skin and the meat inside is white. All the chunks are tossed in a
> little olive oil and then put in the pan around the meat.
 
> 350 degrees for 60 to 75 minutes.
 
 
Very nice...thinking of a cool meatloaf sandwich on a muggy summer's day...
 
--
Best
Greg
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 10 12:36PM +1000

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 19:34:00 -0700 (PDT), GM
>> little olive oil and then put in the pan around the meat.
 
>> 350 degrees for 60 to 75 minutes.
 
>Very nice...thinking of a cool meatloaf sandwich on a muggy summer's day...
 
As a nice break from posting to RFC under other people's names?
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jul 09 08:00PM -0700

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 4:31:49 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> skin and the meat inside is white. All the chunks are tossed in a
> little olive oil and then put in the pan around the meat.
 
> 350 degrees for 60 to 75 minutes.
 
That sounds like a good idea. I make a similar meatloaf except that I don't add an egg. I love dehydrated onions - it's so convenient. I'll make some tonight and cook it in the air fryer. It'll be my own personal meatloaf since everybody else in this house is on a diet. I'll add some oyster sauce and mustard is small amounts to "round" out the taste.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jul 09 10:22PM -0500

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 22:31:44 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> skin and the meat inside is white. All the chunks are tossed in a
> little olive oil and then put in the pan around the meat.
 
> 350 degrees for 60 to 75 minutes.
 
 
Here comes Sheldon correcting the spelling of Meatloaf.
 
I made all my meatloaves out of beef prior to 2-3 loaves ago. I
started adding ground pork (only cost 2/5ths the price of ground
beef) and they tasted so much better. Try that next time with your
recipe.
 
Dare I say that I buy pork butts at $.99/lb and grind them myself
into 1-lb packages?
 
-sw
Bruce <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jul 09 07:56PM -0700

Hank Rogers wrote:
 
> your own conversion for your specific ingredients.
 
> In case it applies ... keep in mind that ounces of weight and
> ounces volume are not the same, except for water.
 
 
What about measuring flatus?
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jul 09 07:51PM -0700

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 2:22:18 PM UTC-10, Boron Elgar wrote:
> >> Has anyone seen or had this dessert before? or is it a type of candy or just a flavor like chocolate, vanilla, etc...
 
> >It is a sparkling chocolate soda made with 3 readily available ingredients. Milk, chocolate syrup, and sparkling water. It is curiously refreshing. Paradoxically, it contains no egg or cream. That's a good thing.
 
> GAK- sorry- U-Bet syrup....oy.
 
Well, that's what people say. The Fox's U-Bet syrup seems kind of unimpressive to people that are used to Hershey's as it's kind of thin and less intense than Hershey's. My guess is that an egg creme is going to be just as tasty made with any old syrup. I still have a bottle of the Fox's from 4 or 5 years ago somewhere in the cabinet. I guess it's about time to dump it.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jul 09 07:53PM -0700

On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 2:39:42 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
 
> >Lactose ain't good for a lot of "ethnic" type people. Asians have a lot of drinks that are probiotics. The easiest thing to do is to have a Yakult. Do black folks have probiotic products for them? Beats me.
 
> >https://www.seriouseats.com/2009/08/what-is-yakult-like-probiotic-dairy-drink.html
 
> If I wear wooden shoes, does that make me ethnic too?
 
Indeed you are ethnic, but the wrong kind of ethnic - unless cream gives you the shits.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 10 12:55PM +1000

On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 19:53:04 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:
 
 
>> >https://www.seriouseats.com/2009/08/what-is-yakult-like-probiotic-dairy-drink.html
 
>> If I wear wooden shoes, does that make me ethnic too?
 
>Indeed you are ethnic, but the wrong kind of ethnic - unless cream gives you the shits.
 
It doesn't, but it's still good to know that I'm ethnic.
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