Thursday, July 2, 2020

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GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jul 02 08:03AM -0700

Lucretia Borgia wrote:
 
 
> >Why is that?
 
> Since we came in 1967 it has always been a joyous day but Covid has
> changed that this year.
 
 
Ah, Canada in 1967, our family did a road trip to visit Expo '67, and then to Quebec City...great memories...!!!
 
--
Best
Greg
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 02 01:34PM -0400

On 7/2/2020 11:03 AM, GM wrote:
 
>> Since we came in 1967 it has always been a joyous day but Covid has
>> changed that this year.
 
> Ah, Canada in 1967, our family did a road trip to visit Expo '67, and then to Quebec City...great memories...!!!
 
We were there in 1966 and they were still building. It was ad-libbed
when our original plan did not work out. Lake George NY, Montreal,
Bangor Maine, Provincetown, MA.
 
I forget how much money I had, about $150, so we went $75 north and
turned around.
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jul 02 11:03AM -0700

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> Bangor Maine, Provincetown, MA.
 
> I forget how much money I had, about $150, so we went $75 north and
> turned around.
 
 
We bought a new '67 Plymouth Fury III sedan - with AIR CONDITIONING! - for the trip, medium green in color. Very snazzy to us, and it would be several years before we got a/c for the house...
 
An affluent couple my parents were friends with bought a new Chyrsler Imperial for their Expo '67 roadtrip and I remember my parents going on about how they spent an extravagent $600.00!!! for their trip, about $4700 in today's money...IIRC we budgeted $300 for ten days, a goodly sum then.
 
It was a fun trip, we returned from Canada down through Vermont and then west home...a stop at Niagara Falls, natch. Dad was anxious to get home to tend to his garden, so we drove straight through from Utica NY to home in Illinois...
 
The only bad thing was how appallingingly nasty the Québécois were to us when we'd stop and ask for directions, in one case they deliberately gave us the wrong directions...also at a Chinese resto outside of Montreal the owners charged us for rice with our modest chow mein meal, lol.
 
I was obssessed with the Soviet Union/communism at the time, and the biggest treat at Expo was visiting the Soviet Pavilion...I remembered armed guards atop the Cuban Pavilion (the Cubans had received threats to blow up the building), and the Czech Pavilion had enourmous lines to enter, so no Cuban and Czech "experiences"...taking the train/monorail around the grounds was great, too.
 
Ah, those old road trips...the new Interstates were making travel much easier, and to stay at a new Holiday Inn was a very cool thing to do, sheer luxury compared to some of the moldy old tourist cabins that were still about...
 
The graphics, etc. for the "Man And His World" Expo '67 were very modern, and 50+ years later they remain so. 1967 was Canada's centenary, and they introduced the new maple leaf flag...it was the grooviest thing in the world to be Canadian.
 
--
Best
Greg
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jul 02 02:35PM -0400

On 2020-07-02 1:34 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Bangor Maine, Provincetown, MA.
 
> I forget how much money I had, about $150, so we went $75  north and
> turned around.
 
Montreal is a nice city and a bargain for tourists. My son lived there
for ten years so we made several trips up to visit him. Hotels and
restaurants were always relatively cheap.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 02 10:51AM -0400


> I do like the coated paper plates and yes, they are good for giving the
> cat a tidbit of something after I've eaten off of it.
 
I always use real dinner plates and I always let my ferrets
check out each meal and eat right off that if they cared
to. No worries, we all shared the household germs.
 
Those cheap paper plates (not coated) are just cheap
paper plates. I would never use one for a real meal.
Sheldon is just a cheapskate.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 02 08:05AM -0700


> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> I do put my paper plates in the recycling bin along with junk mail and
> empty boxes and such.
 
We're told that any paper for recycling must be clean and grease-free.
Not all paper plates (especially if used as a spoon rest) qualify.
 
Cindy Hamilton
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 02 08:06AM -0700

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 9:53:15 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
 
> I always use real dinner plates and I always let my ferrets
> check out each meal and eat right off that if they cared
> to. No worries, we all shared the household germs.
 
Did y'all lick your butts in unison, too?
 
> Those cheap paper plates (not coated) are just cheap
> paper plates. I would never use one for a real meal.
> Sheldon is just a cheapskate.
 
They're fine for a sandwich, peanut butter and crackers, cheese and crackers,
potato chips, etc. Good for a steak? No. Good for a pork chop? No. Good
for soup? No. But they have their uses.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 02 08:10AM -0700


> They're fine for a sandwich, peanut butter and crackers, cheese and crackers,
> potato chips, etc. Good for a steak? No. Good for a pork chop? No. Good
> for soup? No. But they have their uses.
 
I use a real plate for all those things. Pop it in the dishwasher and
it's done. I can almost always find room in the dishwasher to squeeze
in one little plate.
 
That said, I often use the same plate for more than one snack, or I'll
reuse a snack plate at dinnertime to hold a piece of bread with olive oil
drizzled on it.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 02 11:29AM -0400

> > check out each meal and eat right off that if they cared
> > to. No worries, we all shared the household germs.
 
> Did y'all lick your butts in unison, too?
 
Neither ferrets or humans (except for Bruce) lick
their butts.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 02 11:30AM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> reuse a snack plate at dinnertime to hold a piece of bread with olive oil
> drizzled on it.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
I do the same but don't even wait for the dishwasher. Just a
quick hand
wash cleans it just fine.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 02 09:28AM -0700

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 10:05:10 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> We're told that any paper for recycling must be clean and grease-free.
> Not all paper plates (especially if used as a spoon rest) qualify.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
We've not been told paper plates must be clean but I do rinse them off.
Not because a dirty paper plate might be offensive to the sorters but I
don't want to put anything in there that might draw critters. Certainly
nothing in there that would knock me down with the smell when I open the
lid. All emptied vegetable cans get a rinse as well as that would also
make such a nasty mess in my recycling bin.
 
The recycling bins and trash cans provided by the city are the same type.
I have noticed on a lot of trash cans around the lid are chiseled marks
for lack of a better description. I think I've figured out its squirrels
and maybe possums trying to get into the cans but can't manage to lift the
lid and get in and get out so they attempt chewing the perimeter of the lids.
 
Any foodstuffs I have go in a Walmart or Kroger plastic bag and are stored
in the freezer until trash day. I know people with families have a LOT more
trash than me and this is not feasible. Foodstuffs would be meat trimmings
or bones.
notbob <notbob@nothome.com>: Jul 02 04:43PM


> Every reat cook uses foil for something. Which explains why Sheldon
> doesn't.
 
Whatsa "reat" cook?
 
I seldom use foil. I agree w/ shelly, although I have no roll dating
back to '82. Toss it! .....fer dog sakes!!
 
Gonna try some /w ribs. ;)
 
nb
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 02 09:59AM -0700

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 12:43:59 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
 
> > Every reat cook uses foil for something. Which explains why Sheldon
> > doesn't.
 
> Whatsa "reat" cook?
 
A "real" cook, of course. Have you no intuition?
 
> back to '82. Toss it! .....fer dog sakes!!
 
> Gonna try some /w ribs. ;)
 
> nb
 
Everybody's different. My primary use of foil is in the toaster oven
or to cover a half-sheet pan when I'm roasting vegetables or baking
Tater Tots. I don't use foil very often, but it's the best thing for
some jobs.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 02 01:38PM -0400

On 7/2/2020 11:10 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> reuse a snack plate at dinnertime to hold a piece of bread with olive oil
> drizzled on it.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
If its good enough for the Queen, its good enough for me! Rare to us
paper, maybe once a year.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 02 01:49PM -0400

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 08:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
 
>We're told that any paper for recycling must be clean and grease-free.
>Not all paper plates (especially if used as a spoon rest) qualify.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
We also use used paper plates to feed our cats, we don't put stinky
trash in with the recyclables so those smelly cat food plates go in
the regular trash bin... plus the regular trash bin is fully lined
with a large plastic bag.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 03 03:51AM +1000


>> Did y'all lick your butts in unison, too?
 
>Neither ferrets or humans (except for Bruce) lick
>their butts.
 
Thanks, Gary.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 02 02:03PM -0400

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 09:28:49 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>in the freezer until trash day. I know people with families have a LOT more
>trash than me and this is not feasible. Foodstuffs would be meat trimmings
>or bones.
 
Nothing the critters eat go in our trash bin. Meat trimmings get
tossed outside and the crows make quick work of it. Vegetable
trimmings go out for the deer, rabbits, etal.
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jul 02 07:31PM +0100

"Gary" wrote in message news:5EFDF45A.68C2D614@att.net...
 
 
> I do like the coated paper plates and yes, they are good for giving the
> cat a tidbit of something after I've eaten off of it.
 
I always use real dinner plates and I always let my ferrets
check out each meal and eat right off that if they cared
to. No worries, we all shared the household germs.
 
Those cheap paper plates (not coated) are just cheap
paper plates. I would never use one for a real meal.
Sheldon is just a cheapskate.
 
====
 
Gary!! Do you have some of your lovely ferrets again?? :))
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jul 02 11:13AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 11:49:36 PM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> Even middle-class black men are subject to disproportionate harassment
> by police.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
In some places, the cops are seen as black disposal units. They are great for getting rid of pesky black folks!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWBVxTEgoYk
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 02 10:54AM -0400

Ophelia wrote:
 
> ====
 
> Yes, I think so too. He only likes the baby leaves. Perhaps not so
> strong.
 
good additions to soup. Even the large leaves.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 03 03:08AM +1000

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 15:05:05 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
>Sounds like you tried them raw. I don't think I'd like that either.
 
>===
 
> Do like them?
 
I think there are ways to make them ok. I don't think raw is one of
them.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 03 03:14AM +1000


>> Yes, I think so too. He only likes the baby leaves. Perhaps not so
>> strong.
 
>good additions to soup. Even the large leaves.
 
Traditional Dutch food is to boil and mash them with potatoes and a
bit of milk. Serve with gravy and a big smoked sausage.
 
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Bruce <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jul 02 10:24AM -0700

I wrote:
 
 
> >good additions to soup. Even the large leaves.
 
> Traditional Dutch food is to boil and mash them with potatoes and a
> bit of milk. Serve with gravy and a big smoked sausage.
 
 
I'll add that the bigger the sausage, the better, as I consider meself a "Sausage Sucker Supreme", lol.
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jul 02 07:59AM -0700

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
 
> > leo
 
> My God, man! How does a guy fail at both casinos and selling steaks to
> Americans?
 
 
That's the beauty of the capitalist free market - people and their commodities are free to succeed, or fail, on their own merits...haven't you read Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom"...or even Ayn Rand...???
 
--
Best
Greg
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 02 08:06AM -0700

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 10:59:52 AM UTC-4, GM wrote:
 
> > My God, man! How does a guy fail at both casinos and selling steaks to
> > Americans?
 
> That's the beauty of the capitalist free market - people and their commodities are free to succeed, or fail, on their own merits...haven't you read Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom"...or even Ayn Rand...???
 
I've read both The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged. I didn't know I was
supposed to take them seriously.
 
Cindy Hamilton
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