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| Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 10 05:52AM -0800 On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 7:21:36 AM UTC-5, Leo wrote: > adjust. Old axioms from my youth were, if you don´t like this job, get > another one, and If you don´t like that one, educate yourself and try > again. So your aim is to turn America into a third-world shithole. Duly noted. Turn it into one, to the extent that the Trumpkins didn't already do that last Wednesday. I woke up in the First World and went to bed in the Third World. Cindy Hamilton |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jan 10 07:51AM -0800 > starvation wages. > > I see that it´s late for me and early for you. To be continued... > It is late for you, late in your life, and the sooner you die, the better. Jeez now, Bryan, don't ya think that is kind of a GELID thing to say to Leo...??? -- Best Greg |
| Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 10 07:56AM -0800 On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 9:51:56 AM UTC-6, GM wrote: > > > I see that it´s late for me and early for you. To be continued... > > It is late for you, late in your life, and the sooner you die, the better. > Jeez now, Bryan, don't ya think that is kind of a GELID thing to say to Leo...??? Some guys are cool. Other guys are positively cold, But I be mothafuckin' gelid. --Bryan |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 10 11:01AM -0500 On 2021-01-10 6:26 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: > On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 5:55:35 AM UTC-5, Leo wrote: nder-the-new-tax-code> >> that drove business overseas in the first place. > No amount of dumping those regulations will make labor as cheap as it is > overseas. It's 2021, Leo, not 1921. Those jobs aren't coming back. So here we are with labor laws that protect workers and environmental laws that have cleaned up our rivers and lakes while China and other Asian countries continue to dump crap into the air and the water. |
| Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jan 10 11:03AM -0500 On 1/10/2021 5:55 AM, Leo wrote: > benefits and retirement payments. Remember, every government employee > contributes zero to the GNP and benefits greatly from it. > leo Can you be more specific on what regulations to dump? Probably some, but not all. Pollution? Safety? What government workers should go? Military? Police? Air traffic controllers? Two thirds is big hit so lay out your plan. |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 10 11:03AM -0500 On 2021-01-10 7:21 a.m., Leo wrote: > adjust. Old axioms from my youth were, if you don´t like this job, get > another one, and If you don´t like that one, educate yourself and try > again. Let's get back to the good old days of child labour and 80 hour work weeks. |
| Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 10 09:07AM -0500 >Asparagus and Broccoli mix was exceptional. Those who eat just the >flower parts and toss the stems, may want to save them up and try >making a broth with them. Brocccoli stems are excellent peeled and diced into a salad, no cooking required. The woody ends of asparagus should be snapped off at the produce department before weighing at the checkout. |
| "cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jan 10 08:10AM -0600 Sqwertz wrote: > > ... > I smell farts. > -sw LOL, not from broth. As usual, GM tries to insinuate it's garbage veggies when it's not. It's just root ends, ends of asparagus, peels from fresh veggies and a mistakenly frozen broccoli (pre-blanching). This sort of simple non-waste is good for the environment. Many of us don't live where we have livestock to feed or room for a real compost setup. Nor can we willy-nilly toss it out the window for the deer and critters to eat, or just rot away. Anyway, I rarely have mistreated broccoli or aspargus ends so added a post that they make good additions for those who discard the stems. If it's not clear, here is what happens. Those same veggies I used, have the ends and peels put to the side and then gathered as sent via diesel truck to another facility where they are boiled and strained, then boxed and put on a truck to be delivered eventually to your store where you buy it feeling all virtuous as you toss out the fresher better _same_ peels in your trash.... and eat from a lesser quality box you could have better made (and healthier) at home. |
| Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 10 09:18AM -0500 On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 16:33:42 -0800 (PST), Bryan Simmons >> Best >> Greg >--Bryan Makes far more sense tossing those trimmings out my window for the critters... always gone before sunrise... none wasted, all expertly composted by Bambi's mom. It's inane to waste fuel cooking the nutrition out of those tough fiberous scraps, heat destroys vitamins. |
| Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 10 10:04AM -0500 On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 11:50:22 +1100, Master Bruce >>certainly both virtuous and healthful. >Vegetarianism is indeed virtuous. Carnivores actually hate vegetarians >for their moral superiority. What's virtuous are the canneries donating all those scraps to the pig farmers... larger eateries do likewise. Farmers here who raise Black Angus make the rounds to the eateries after hours with their pick up trucks, they collect all the leavings from the bread baskets too, and also day old donuts from Dunkin. Hospitals, prisons and other commissaries also donate leftover foods to livestock farmers. Swine aren't too proud to dine on potato and carrot peels. I toss veggie peelings out my office window, deer arrive several times a day to dumpster dive. Meat trimmings get tossed off my deck for the birds, all that fat is what gets them through the winter. Skimmed fat from soups go in cardboard milk containers in our freezer, mixed with some bird seed makes a treat for the birds that winter over. |
| Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 10 10:06AM -0500 cshenk wrote: > don't live where we have livestock to feed or room for a real compost > setup. Nor can we willy-nilly toss it out the window for the deer and > critters to eat, or just rot away. I always save my veggie scraps in a freezer bag. I add them to a pot when making chicken stock. Made another batch the other day. |
| Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 10 10:36AM -0500 On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 16:57:28 -0800 (PST), GM >Why would anyone make a broth - or *anything* - out of garbage pail scrapings...same > as peeps making "chicken broth" outta chicken backs, etc....and then post it on a >public forum...UCK...!!! First thing I do when quartering a chicken is to cut out the spine and feed it to the crows, I'm not into spinal fluid broth. >Ca - wole's "recipe" is "exceptional" alright -- "exceptional" in its *woefulness*...she'd be >better off using a cheap bullion cube... I don't make broth to save money, I use whole chickens minus their spines, and I skim off the fat... chickens are cheap. I don't mind making chicken salad from simmered chicken meat... actually quite good diced and mixed with mayo, herbs, and spices. Mayo is made with vegetable fat, much more healthful than chicken fat. The chicken fat gets mixed with bird seed, frozen with other meat fat and fed to the wintering birds. Skimmed fat from chicken broth is not schmaltz, schmaltz is the pan drippings from roasted chicken. Fat skimmed from simmering/boiling water hasn't reached a nearly high enough temperature, and even if heated in a pan will taste awful because all the flavor is in the cooking water. |
| Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 10 07:38AM -0800 On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 8:07:47 AM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote: > The woody ends of asparagus should be snapped off at the produce > department before weighing at the checkout. That is, essentially, theft, but everyone knows that you're a person of shitty character. --Bryan |
| Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 10 10:58AM -0500 On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 02:25:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton >What's the difference between the area above the cut and below the cut? >As far as I can see: tenderness. >Cindy Hamilton The tough woody part at the bottom end of asparagus is not nearly as flavorful as the tender portion of the stalk... may as well make apple juice from apple tree prunings. Asparagus bunches are typically held together with a wide rubberband, I move that ruberbad a bit closer to the asparagus tips and with one fell swoop I slice all those bottoms off at once. I save the bottoms and enjoy nibbling the last of the tender part remaining. When I get to the tough woody flavorless portion I toss those into the composter. I keep a very nice looking SS compost bucket on my kitchen counter, when full I carry it out to one of or composters, we have two, one by the veggie garden for what remains after the growing season, the other is near our back door for kitchen trimmings. A lot of greenery and trimmings from the veggie garden gets tossed over the fence for the critters, like outer cabbage leaves. Somehow critters know which vegetable plants are toxic and leave those, like tomato, eggplant, those in the nightshade family. |
| Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 10 08:53AM -0500 On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 22:13:03 -0600, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid> wrote: >> John Kuthe... >Oh boy of boy oh boy oh boy! Those look excellent! >-sw You must have x-ray vision to see through all that waste of aluminum that Kootchie could have used for rain gutters. |
| Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 10 08:58AM -0500 On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 20:20:12 -0800 (PST), GM >> https://i.postimg.cc/65dgRBJx/Garlic-Potatoes-cooling-off-1-9-2021.jpg >> 33F now, temp controlled by Mother Gaia! >It's just a pic of an aluminum pan...you are LYING, obviously, about the taters... Kootchie foiled again. |
| Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 10 06:00AM -0800 > Done, covered, and in my Big Refrigerator: > https://i.postimg.cc/65dgRBJx/Garlic-Potatoes-cooling-off-1-9-2021.jpg > 33F now, temp controlled by Mother Gaia! Do you know how badly it hurts Mother Gaia when we make aluminum out of bauxite? Cindy Hamilton |
| Janet <nobody@home.org>: Jan 10 02:56PM In article <a5vdwn3omyfd$.dlg@sqwertz.com>, sqwertzme@gmail.invalid says... > > 33F now, temp controlled by Mother Gaia! > > John Kuthe... > Oh boy of boy oh boy oh boy! Those look excellent! Foiled again, sirrah. Janet UK |
| Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: Jan 10 07:01AM -0800 On 1/10/2021 6:56 AM, Janet wrote: >> Oh boy of boy oh boy oh boy! Those look excellent! > Foiled again, sirrah. > Janet UK They are ready to go into his brand new microwave oven. His fourth brand new microwave oven in the past year. |
| Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 10 10:08AM -0500 On 1/10/2021 8:58 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote: >>> 33F now, temp controlled by Mother Gaia! >> It's just a pic of an aluminum pan...you are LYING, obviously, about the taters... > Kootchie foiled again. It's a tin foil hat for his meal. Keeps Big Brother from spying on his food. |
| Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 10 07:49AM -0800 On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 8:00:35 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > 33F now, temp controlled by Mother Gaia! > Do you know how badly it hurts Mother Gaia when we make aluminum > out of bauxite? Making meatallic aluminum from bauxite is *very* energy intensive. It's no coincidence that aluminum plants are usually located near large hydroelectric dams. Recycling a aluminum can uses a small fraction of that energy. Used aluminum foil that is contaminated with food isn't recyclable, and goes into Mother Gaia's Sanitary Landfill. --Bryan |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jan 10 07:57AM -0800 > large hydroelectric dams. Recycling a aluminum can uses a small > fraction of that energy. Used aluminum foil that is contaminated with > food isn't recyclable, and goes into Mother Gaia's Sanitary Landfill. Widespread availability of cheap aluminum is one of the Machine Age's great accomplishments...alu was once about as expensive as gold... -- Best Greg |
| Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 10 07:52AM -0800 On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 7:51:02 AM UTC-6, cshenk wrote: > > exotic grubs than say, St. Louis. > > --Bryan > Probably but it's also over 1 hour round trip? I guess it comes down to how far she's willing to go to please her well hung Tanzanian. --Bryan |
| Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 10 07:36AM -0800 On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 11:44:00 PM UTC-6, Alex wrote: > Your house isn't worth that added "investment" so squandered is an > accurate assessment. You must know that was a huge mistake and it's OK > to admit it. The house is probably worth well over $200K, especially with the new 100 year roof. His mistake wasn't replacing the roof, but buying a house that needed the roof replaced to begin with, *unless* he got it cheap (under $100K) *because* it needed a $125K roof repair. I doubt that Bel Nor would have allowed replacement with architectural shingles. My nephew used to own a duplex that had those Moorish clay shingles. These are pretty houses, and they're scattered about the older, nicer neighborhoods. https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5937733,-90.2730924,3a,75y,133.4h,75.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suHNMHQcSZGXNxjPZpd9O0A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 We're getting our roof replaced this spring, and even with top quality architectural shingles it won't be over $10-11K. All this reminds me that it's about time to get my second shingles shot. I love vaccines, and look forward to when it's my turn to get the Covid shot. --Bryan |
| "cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jan 10 09:04AM -0600 Sqwertz wrote: > tomorrow (Jill made me do it). Heat wave coming in predicted to be > 30F with possible snow so that's what I'm making. > -sw I use the Knorr chicken broth all the time. A bit higher in sodium than I like but we use it sparsely so it works. Very shelf stable so a container (16oz) lasts a year. There's a little neighborhood gift exchange some 8-10 of us do. We always do it with food items and stick to things most are at least a bit familiar with. Rule is no more than 5$ (pre-tax) and locally bought so others can get it. Simple stuff obviously from the price limit so might be a selection of pasta sides, or instant flavored mashed potatoes, a fancy mustard and so on. Previous years we'd meet at one house and do it with a round-house trade (2 steals max on an item). This year, via Zoom. I mention it as one of the 'hotter' trades was 2 Knorrs broth bases, Chicken and Beef. I ended up with a nice simple local made rose table wine (4.99 on sale) that was suprisingly nice! My offer was a container of Portabello mushrooms. Simple stuff anyone can use but not all may have tried or inexpensive 'luxury' items. A lot are on hard times or fixed incomes so 5$ fits us and makes for a cheery mini-challange! |
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