Tuesday, May 14, 2019

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

notbob <notbob@q.com>: May 14 11:14AM -0600

I recall a thread on RFC about buttermilk. Essentially, it sed that
making one's own buttermilk (BM) was simply a matter of adding some BM
to some regular milk and freezing it. Yes? No?
 
I've got 3 cartons of milk. One half gallon of organic reg milk,
unopened, one pint of organic half-n-half, unopened, and one quart of
cultured BM, unopened. I recall buying the BM thinking I would add it
to the reg milk and freeze it, thereby ensuring myself a large supply of
BM, which I use to experiment with. I usta make my BM by adding some
lemon juice to regular milk.
 
The unopened organic reg milk should be OK. The stuff last damn near
forever, even opened, what with that little opening (screw-on plastic
cap).
 
What was all that BM talk on RFC? ;)
 
nb
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: May 14 10:29AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 12:14:19 PM UTC-5, notbob wrote:
> lemon juice to regular milk.
 
> What was all that BM talk on RFC? ;)
 
> nb
 
I always added vinegar to milk to make buttermilk as I don't have lemons on
hand all the time. But commercial buttermilk will last your refrigerator
for a very, very, very, very looooooong time.
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: May 14 11:39AM -0600

On Tue, 14 May 2019 10:29:03 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
 
>I always added vinegar to milk to make buttermilk as I don't have lemons on
>hand all the time. But commercial buttermilk will last your refrigerator
>for a very, very, very, very looooooong time.
 
There was someone on this group this last winter that mentioned they
made more buttermilk by adding residual buttermilk to a new container
of whole milk and letting it set on the counter for a day or two until
the organisms in the original buttermilk had a chance to work on the
new milk. I don't recall all the specifics.
Janet US
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 14 03:04PM -0400


> I always added vinegar to milk to make buttermilk as I don't have lemons on
> hand all the time. But commercial buttermilk will last your refrigerator
> for a very, very, very, very looooooong time.
 
Ditto on the white vinegar added to milk, Joan. I generally only buy
lemons if I'm planning to cook some type of fish. I've tried the Saco
[brand] buttermilk powder but that was decades ago. I know buttermilk
lasts a long time but I rarely use it so I rarely think to buy any.
 
Jill
ChristKiller@deathtochristianity.pl: May 14 01:45PM -0500

I threw some cream cheese into a bowl 16 oz 1 cup of sugar about 1 cup
of pineapple mixed it and put it in a gluten free gram cracker crust.
It is pretty damn good
--
 
 
"There are idiots among us, and they all believe in a god"
~Toidi Uoy
S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku>: May 14 05:44PM +0100

On 5/14/2019 3:49 PM, Ophelia wrote:
 
> Thanks very much Carol:) <saved> Oh btw we have always had SR flour
> but we call it Self Raising Flour:))
 
The self-rising flour I use in the US, also has salt. The self-raising
flour I use in the UK, does not.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: May 14 10:06AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 12:11:35 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> Don't guess. Research.
 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuit_(bread)#History>
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Your link sucks. It doesn't shed light on the question of when the Southern biscuit came about. My guess is that the Southern biscuit didn't come around until after the civil war.
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: May 14 06:31PM +0100

"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:gk09iuFrbbvU1@mid.individual.net...
 
On 5/14/2019 3:49 PM, Ophelia wrote:
 
> Thanks very much Carol:) <saved> Oh btw we have always had SR flour
> but we call it Self Raising Flour:))
 
The self-rising flour I use in the US, also has salt. The self-raising
flour I use in the UK, does not.
 
==
 
True and no sugar either:))
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: May 14 06:20PM +0100

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:28891648-a235-40cd-a684-0abdba4d960d@googlegroups.com...
 
On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 5:09:05 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
 
> ==
 
> Thanks very much Carol:) <saved> Oh btw we have always had SR flour
> but we call it Self Raising Flour:))
 
Self raising flour was invented by a Brit in the mid-1800's. The product was
introduced to the US soon after. Mostly, it was an ingredient used in the
South. Why is that? Beats me.
 
===
 
... and I have no idea either:))
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: May 14 10:37AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 1:06:36 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
 
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biscuit_(bread)#History>
 
> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> Your link sucks. It doesn't shed light on the question of when the Southern biscuit came about. My guess is that the Southern biscuit didn't come around until after the civil war.
 
Here's the stuff from that page:
 
The biscuit emerged as a distinct food type in the early 19th century,
before the American Civil War. Cooks created a cheaply produced
addition for their meals that required no yeast, which was expensive
and difficult to store. With no leavening agents except the bitter-
tasting pearlash available, beaten biscuits were laboriously beaten and
folded to incorporate air into the dough which expanded when heated in
the oven causing the biscuit to rise.
 
Baking powder was invented in 1843. Arm & Hammer baking soda came
out in 1846.
 
Cindy Hamilton
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: May 14 10:59AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 7:37:39 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> Baking powder was invented in 1843. Arm & Hammer baking soda came
> out in 1846.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
So your conclusion is that the Southern biscuit came about before the civil war? Why not come out and just say it?
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: May 14 11:26AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 1:59:31 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > out in 1846.
 
> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> So your conclusion is that the Southern biscuit came about before the civil war? Why not come out and just say it?
 
Because I hope that you will view the data and draw your own conclusions.
 
Cindy Hamilton
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: May 14 11:34AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 8:26:20 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> > So your conclusion is that the Southern biscuit came about before the civil war? Why not come out and just say it?
 
> Because I hope that you will view the data and draw your own conclusions.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
I already gave my conclusion i.e., "guess." Do you have a conclusion i.e., "guess?" Did you do your research? My guesses are always based on research. My guess is that my guesses are more substantial than your guesses.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: May 14 09:26AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 4:00:53 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
 
> That looks very nice, as always. :)
> Did you notice that 4 of those vegetables in the salad
> have faces? Veggies are living things too, folks.
 
I did not see the faces. I used to see faces in things a few years ago. That ability has waned. Articles of clothes are living things too. :)
 
https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/3pmzVA7gTJikT9hnpsBXFw.ilSyPT6LYqI75LQp1hrrDm
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: May 14 10:04AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 12:26:37 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > have faces? Veggies are living things too, folks.
 
> I did not see the faces. I used to see faces in things a few years ago. That ability has waned. Articles of clothes are living things too. :)
 
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/3pmzVA7gTJikT9hnpsBXFw.ilSyPT6LYqI75LQp1hrrDm
 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia>
 
Cindy Hamilton
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: May 14 01:15PM -0400

On 5/14/2019 11:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
 
> ===
 
>   Thanks:))   Is that only location though?   Are all Queenslanders
> Banana benders? LOL Why??
 
Bananas are a big crop in Queensland. Northern Territory are Top Enders.
"Ophelia" <OphElsnore@gmail.com>: May 14 06:17PM +0100

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message news:fJCCE.24834$u14.4611@fx29.iad...
 
On 5/14/2019 11:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
 
> ===
 
> Thanks:)) Is that only location though? Are all Queenslanders
> Banana benders? LOL Why??
 
Bananas are a big crop in Queensland. Northern Territory are Top Enders.
 
==
 
Ahhh thank you:))
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: May 14 11:28AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 7:04:50 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/3pmzVA7gTJikT9hnpsBXFw.ilSyPT6LYqI75LQp1hrrDm
 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia>
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Here's a photo of Rabbit Island just off of Oahu. The island looks like a rabbit head but it was called "Rabbit Island" because there used to be a large colony of rabbits living on that rock. Curious.
 
https://d1li3p7kp8c46b.cloudfront.net/7000/6726.4756.114bbb10d9.jpg
Pamela <pamela.poster@gmail.com>: May 14 06:42PM +0100

> researchers."
 
> "In France, health experts are so concerned about the effects of "171"
> that the government is banning its use as a food additive from 2020."
 
Foods have upsides and downsides. Your link shows titanium dioxide has
been considered safe on balance:
 
"In 2015, FSANZ commissioned a review of the safety of titanium dioxide
which found there is no evidence of health risks from consumption of
the food grade material."
 
There was a BBC documentary a few years ago called "E numbers Are Good For
You". The presenter argued that additives and compounds given E numbers
(in Europe) were regulated, tested and controlled such that they were safe
and if a problem arose the regulatory system could manage it effectively.
 
You probably don't agree.
 
I wonder if you have contamination fears, perhaps like OCD, and have
extended that fear to ingredients in manufactured food.
heyjoe <sample@example.invalid>: May 14 12:51PM -0500

On Tue, 14 May 2019 11:14:10 -0600
in Message-ID: <news:gk0bb5Frpd6U1@mid.individual.net>
 
> I recall a thread on RFC about buttermilk. Essentially, it sed that
> making one's own buttermilk (BM) was simply a matter of adding some BM
> to some regular milk and freezing it. Yes? No?
 
Pretty much. Details from Epicurious,
<https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/homemade-buttermilk-388713>
 
--
I meant to behave, but there were too many other options.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: May 14 10:09AM -0700

On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 11:14:42 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
 
> >How what? How I have my filter set high or how I got the spam mostly under
> >control?
 
> How you get spam mostly under control.
 
I report each and every piece of spam I get, being sure to include the full
headers, to SpamCop. Most all spam I do not see as I have my filters set
to known senders only.
Janet <Janet@somewhere.com>: May 14 05:36PM +0100

In article <a46fbd1e-0c4c-4519-bee9-c5d86df44fec@googlegroups.com>,
itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net says...
> reject, to cook for Hay-Zeus who lives in the shed with his main squeeze.
> Now you're trying to tell use HE does all the cooking. Ménage à trois or
> is she relegated to the shed with your worn out vibrator?
 
Try to keep up. Julie has two men in her life, My Gardener (lives in
shed, picky eater), and My Boyfriend/Current Guy (cooks from scratch,
must not be badmouthed OR ELSE).
 
Janet UK
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: May 14 10:04AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 11:36:36 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
> shed, picky eater), and My Boyfriend/Current Guy (cooks from scratch,
> must not be badmouthed OR ELSE).
 
> Janet UK
 
Yeah, she could get violent and hit me with can of beans or limp celery.
 
Hmmmmmm, could still be a ménage à trois.
dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: May 14 09:52AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 3:12:46 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> it. Pay attention to all though. The very ending was good.
 
> I only watched it one night when nothing interesting was on. Boy
> was I glad I decided to watch it. Crazy@ movie and a good one.
 
Colleen Camp was in that movie. She was also in the 1977 movie in which that movie was a remake of, "Death Game." Colleen Camp was also in a movie with Bruce Lee called "Game of Death." :)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ClBLfHfObE
Terry Coombs <snag_one@msn.com>: May 14 11:35AM -0500

On 5/14/2019 9:15 AM, Gary wrote:
> about to flourish. I love that corn and buy lots each year. I
> freeze enough to last up until Thanksgiving. I cut them off the
> cob and freeze one bag per ear of corn. No blanching necessary.
  These are home grown - "organically" if you will , I use no
pesticides or herbicides because of the bees . They're jam now , and it
tastes fantastic . It looks like we'll have enough every 4-5 days for
another batch ... and for sure I'll be freezing some for later . My corn
is just barely a couple of inches tall , won't see a harvest - if I can
keep the 'coons out of it - until maybe August or late July . Beans
(blue lake bush) are starting to sprout too , I'm looking for a banner
year for most everything I'm planting .
 
--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !
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