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| "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 05 02:34PM -0700 On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 4:02:22 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote: > She went blind from Glaucoma age 9, we adopted her, age just a week or > so shy of 11. She was a joy with the biggest happy grin you have ever > seen. Sorry to hear of your sweet little girl no longer here. But she had a long life in a wonderful home. |
| "Julie Bove" <juliebove@frontier.com>: Jun 05 03:27PM -0700 "cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net> wrote in message news:WYudnZnFFrZJsGXBnZ2dnUU7-K3NnZ2d@giganews.com... > She went blind from Glaucoma age 9, we adopted her, age just a week or > so shy of 11. She was a joy with the biggest happy grin you have ever > seen. Sorry for your loss. |
| "cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jun 05 05:38PM -0500 > > ever seen. > Sorry to hear of your sweet little girl no longer here. But she had > a long life in a wonderful home. Thank you. She had a wonderful journey and a happy home for her last 6 years. |
| "cshenk" <cshenk1@cox.net>: Jun 05 05:45PM -0500 Julie Bove wrote: > > or so shy of 11. She was a joy with the biggest happy grin you have > > ever seen. > Sorry for your loss. Thank you Julie. https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/NtXvQNxBSGaiYR5PGPv00w |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 05 07:31PM -0400 On 2019-06-05 5:02 p.m., cshenk wrote: > She went blind from Glaucoma age 9, we adopted her, age just a week or > so shy of 11. She was a joy with the biggest happy grin you have ever > seen. Sorry to hear that Carol. The little devils work their way into our hearts and then their short lives are over. We had to have our Malinous euthanized last month. He had been going downhill for the last couple years but seem to just keep on going, but then his back end gave out. |
| Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jun 05 04:41PM -0500 On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 12:37:34 -0500, Terry Coombs wrote: >> That says it all. > Liar , you changed "firearm deaths" which includes suicides and > police/justified shootings to "homicides" . Nobody changed anything. The title of the stat is 'Homicides by Firearm' |
| Janet <Janet@somewhere.com>: Jun 05 11:13PM +0100 In article <3f826e40-c1ac-40ec-951f-9fcad5b133e2@googlegroups.com>, itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net says... > > their source. > > Janet UK > https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html website unavailable in Europe. Janet UK |
| Janet <Janet@somewhere.com>: Jun 05 11:18PM +0100 In article <qd8uhm$fof$1@dont-email.me>, snag_one@msn.com says... > > That says it all. > Liar , you changed "firearm deaths" which includes suicides and > police/justified shootings to "homicides" . Nope, I quoted the website verbatim, as anyone can see on the link. https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9217163/america-guns-europe " Homicides by firearm, per 1 million people" Janet UK |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 05 03:21PM -0700 > https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html > And it's illegal to own a gun in Chicago but nobody told the gangs that and > yes, it is a city run by the Democrats. Yup, Joan...EXACTLY..."gun control" means n-o-t-h-i-n-g here on on the mean streets of 'Chiraq"...here are the RAW stats in easy - to - read diagrams: https://heyjackass.com/ More here (and the final tally on Monday eve was 10 dead): http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/ "MONDAY, JUNE 03, 2019 Poverty Crimes Rise Again As of Sunday evening, Chicago had tallied 9 dead and 40 wounded. It might go higher by the close of business, but it far outstripped the entire Memorial Day weekend. At this rate, Special Ed might be gone before the 4th of July. Lightgroot (newly - elected black Chicago SJW Mayor Lori Lightfoot, who was a partner in a prestigious law firm} is supposed to be not happy: I see where Lori is going to have "accountability Monday's" for "CPD bosses" each week. She's going to want to know what they're doing to reduce violence. Since Lori has said most of these crimes are crimes of poverty does that mean CPD has to reduce poverty in "the community" along with everything else we're tasked with? Is she going to have accountability Tuesday's for "the community"?? "Community" accountability? Hahahahahahahahaha. That's like asking an aldercreature to not be corrupt. We can't wait to hear the details from inside this meeting and see what hair-brained initiatives come out this week. Labels: crime, dumb ideas, stats POSTED BY SCC AT 12:05 AM 184 COMMENTS ..." </> |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 05 07:26PM -0400 > https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-homicides-data-tracker-htmlstory.html > And it's illegal to own a gun in Chicago but nobody told the gangs that and > yes, it is a city run by the Democrats. It is not illegal to own a gun in Chicago. They do have some pretty strict regulations. We have similar situation up here. You have to take a safety course and do a police record search to get a license to own and acquire guns and ammunition. Hand guns are strictly regulated and it is extremely for an individual to get a permit to carry one. Legal hand gun owners have to belong to a recognized gun club to get a transport permit, and that allows them to transport the handguns from your residence to the club and home, and it has to be trigger locked and be in a locked case, and ammunition in a different locked case. Yet, Toronto sees weekly incidents of young gang members shooting each other. None of them have permits to own those guns, and they sure as hell don't have carry permits. Many think that making things even more strict for legal gun owners will encourage the gangstas to behave. |
| Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 05 05:40PM -0400 On 6/5/2019 3:39 PM, Bruce wrote: > to be the same as for a 15 year old. In the Netherlands, the monthly > minimum wage for a 15 year old is USD 550. The minimum wage for > someone 21 and older is USD 1835. Doubt it would work here that simply. Two people doing the same job should be paid the same wage. OTOH, certain jobs like paper routs and baby sitting were typically done by teenagers for low wages. The argument against minimum wage is that the market would take care of it better than laws. I've seen it work in some places. My last place was in the state of MA. The state minimum was higher than the federal minimum, yet we paid even higher to get the people we wanted to work for us. This was a low skilled job in many cases, just packing parts. Some companies have jobs and offer the Federal minimum. People accept that as fact, the best I can get. I have to wonder what would happen if there was no mandate and people could negotiate on their own and go for the employer with the best offer. Put a WalMart and Target across the street from each other and see what they offer to get good people. |
| Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 05 05:43PM -0400 On 6/5/2019 3:35 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> Posting to Usenet is just so much hot air. >> Cindy Hamilton > I have no solution to this problem and posting to Usenet is just so much hot air. Let's talk about dishwashers instead. :) Nobody needs a dishwasher. |
| John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 05 02:50PM -0700 On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 12:10:16 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote: > On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 1:32:24 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > > Isn't it better than nothing? > Getting paid a couple of bucks an hour isn't the problem. The real problem is the cost of housing, education, and healthcare. I've got housing COVERED, plenty of education and refuse to buy FOR PROFIT Health Insurance on Principle! I'm an RN, I AM Healthcare! And a steady retirement income! :-) John Kuthe... |
| Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 05 05:58PM -0400 On 6/5/2019 12:15 PM, tert in seattle wrote: >> after myself first. Only then can I help others. I have a couple of >> other items to order from Amazon soon. > oh great I can't wait to hear more middle class success stories Placed an order with Amazon for four items. They'll be here Friday. |
| Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 06 08:10AM +1000 >baby sitting were typically done by teenagers for low wages. >The argument against minimum wage is that the market would take care of >it better than laws. The market doesn't care if their employees die in the gutter. |
| jay <jay@mail.com>: Jun 05 04:38PM -0600 On 6/5/19 4:10 PM, Bruce wrote: >> The argument against minimum wage is that the market would take care of >> it better than laws. > The market doesn't care if their employees die in the gutter. Why don't you actually go out and do something meaningful to help improve all of these issues you see with the world and its people (you excluded) instead of spending all of your time here yodeling? |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 05 03:40PM -0700 Ed Pawlowski wrote: > there was no mandate and people could negotiate on their own and go for > the employer with the best offer. Put a WalMart and Target across the > street from each other and see what they offer to get good people. I teach work readiness skills to "at - need" people, the first thing I say to them is, "Some of you are worth $20.00 per hour to start, and some of you aren't even worth TWO cents to start. You are owed nothing, so which category are you in...???" That gets their attention, for sure...and that is how I "weed" peeps out... ;-) Interestingly, some European social democracies - Austria, Cyprus, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Italy, and Sweden - that Democrats hold up as worthy examples have *no* minimum wage (this is from 2014): [PS: remember "President" Obama, LOL...!!!???] https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/let-data-speak-truth-behind-minimum-wage-laws "Let the Data Speak: The Truth Behind Minimum Wage Laws By Steve H. Hanke This article appeared in the April 2014 issue of Globe Asia. President Obama set the chattering classes abuzz after his recent unilateral announcement to raise the minimum wage for newly hired Federal contract workers. During his State of the Union address in January, he sang the praises for his decision, saying that "It's good for the economy; it's good for America." As the worldwide economic slump drags on, the political drumbeat to either introduce minimum wage laws (read: Germany) or increase the minimums in countries where these laws exist — such as Indonesia — is becoming deafening. Yet the glowing claims about minimum wage laws don't pass the most basic economic tests. Just look at the data from Europe (see the accompanying chart). There are seven European Union (E.U.) countries in which no minimum wage is mandated (Austria, Cyprus, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Italy, and Sweden). If we compare the levels of unemployment in these countries with E.U. countries that impose a minimum wage, the results are clear. A minimum wage leads to higher levels of unemployment. In the 21 countries with a minimum wage, the average country has an unemployment rate of 11.8%. Whereas, the average unemployment rate in the seven countries without mandated minimum wages is about one third lower — at 7.9%. This point is even more pronounced when we look at rates of unemployment among the E.U.'s youth — defined as those younger than 25 years of age (see the accompanying chart). In the twenty-one E.U. countries where there are minimum wage laws, 27.7% of the youth demographic — more than one in four young adults — was unemployed in 2012. This is considerably higher than the youth unemployment rate in the seven E.U. countries without minimum wage laws — 19.5% in 2012 — a gap that has only widened since the Lehman Brothers collapse in 2008. So, minimum wage laws — while advertised under the banner of social justice — do not live up to the claims made by those who tout them. They do not lift low wage earners to a so-called "social minimum". Indeed, minimum wage laws — imposed at the levels employed in Europe — push a considerable number of people into unemployment. And, unless those newly unemployed qualify for government assistance (read: welfare), they will sink below, or further below, the social minimum. As Nobelist Milton Friedman correctly quipped, "A minimum wage law is, in reality, a law that makes it illegal for an employer to hire a person with limited skills." Dr. Jens Weidmann, President of Germany's Bundesbank,must have heard Prof. Friedman and looked at these European data before he took on Chancellor Angela Merkel for proposing the introduction of a minimum wage law in Germany. In short, Dr. Weidmann said that this would damage Germany's labor market and be a German job killer. He is right. And, executives surveyed in the recently released Duke University/CFO Magazine Global Business Outlook Survey agree, too. Indeed, Chief Financial Officers from around the world were interviewed and a significant number of them concurred: a minimum wage increase in the United States -from the current $7.25/hour to President Obama's proposed $10.10/hour — would kill U.S. jobs. The accompanying table shows what the CFOs had to say. Perhaps, Prof. Friedman said it best when he concluded that "The real tragedy of minimum wage laws is that they are supported by well-meaning groups who want to reduce poverty. But the people who are hurt most by high minimums are the most poverty stricken." High mandated minimum wages will throw people out of work and onto the welfare rolls in cases where unemployment benefits exist. When it comes to welfare payments, they obey the laws of economics, too. Indeed, if something — like unemployment — is subsidized, more of it will be produced. When the data on unemployment benefits speak, they tell us that if the unemployed receive unemployment benefits, the chances that they will become employed are reduced. Those data also show that the probability of an unemployed worker finding employment increases dramatically the closer an unemployed worker comes to the termination date for receipt of his unemployment benefits. In short, when the prospect of losing welfare benefits raises its head, unemployed workers magically tend to find work. The most important lesson to take away from allowing the minimum wage and unemployment benefit data to talk is that abstract notions of what is right, good and just should be examined from a concrete, operational point of view. A dose of reality is most edifying..." Steve H. Hanke is Professor of Applied Economics at the Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, MD. He is also a Senior Fellow and Director of the Troubled Currencies Project at the Cato Institute in Washington, D.C. You can follow him on Twitter: @Steve_Hanke </> |
| Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 06 08:54AM +1000 >Why don't you actually go out and do something meaningful to help >improve all of these issues you see with the world and its people (you >excluded) instead of spending all of your time here yodeling? Am I able to make sure the US has a reasonable minimum wage and stops handing out guns to retards? Do you have a roadmap for how to approach that? I can't wait! |
| GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jun 05 04:05PM -0700 Ed Pawlowski wrote: > >> other items to order from Amazon soon. > > oh great I can't wait to hear more middle class success stories > Placed an order with Amazon for four items. They'll be here Friday. In 2018 I placed 148 orders with Amazon, and 2019 looks to be slightly "better" - 76 and "counting" as of June 5th... :-) :-) :-) Amazon and other online merchandise platforms - and I am increasingly using Walmart - allow me a more gracious, efficient and fulfilling life... And I'm not a wealthy guy, I am overwhelmingly "average" in all respects...I'm not a spendthrift, in fact ordering online is good "budgeting discipline"...also my time is worth money and now I don't have to run all over the place chasing/hauling goods - which a brick - and - mortar place may or may not have... I'm simply AMAZED that we're able to avail ourselves of online merchandising platforms, it's beyond even the realm of the science fiction of the 60's - 70's I grew up reading... I just received an Ebay item from Kiev, Ukraine...got here in five days, a reasonable price and superb service...so call me "middle class", LOL... PS: and for IMBECILE 'Bwuce' up there, I've ordered plenty of stuff from Amazon Australia...great prices and great service, and NO VAT for me - HAHAHAHAAAA...!!! -- Best Greg |
| Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 06 07:33AM +1000 On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 14:31:00 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" >> >Thai. >> Don't they add a sticker with ingredient information in English? >Of course. How do think I was able to post the ingredient list upthread? I just read your post, I didn't do historical research into your musings. |
| "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 05 02:47PM -0700 On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 4:33:54 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > >Of course. How do think I was able to post the ingredient list upthread? > I just read your post, I didn't do historical research into your > musings. Is that your attempt at face saving "I'm going to flap my mouth even though I don't have a clue what I'm yammering about"? |
| Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 06 08:06AM +1000 On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 14:47:14 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" >> musings. >Is that your attempt at face saving "I'm going to flap my mouth even >though I don't have a clue what I'm yammering about"? Relax woman. I only asked if products with Asian writing on them, have a sticker in English added to them. |
| John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 05 02:57PM -0700 On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 2:54:27 PM UTC-5, ZZyXX wrote: > > And I did not USER a single crimp on push on connector! I twisted together and SOLDERED each wire junction for good SOLID physical and electrical connections! The old fashioned way! The BEST way! > > John Kuthe... > lead based solder? Lead and tin, 50/50. The Rosin core is what produces the metal cleaning fumes! I learned to solder as a kid from an expert, my father! John Kuthe... |
| Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jun 05 04:51PM -0500 On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 20:15:59 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > Money? He is a pro gambler and maybe he had side bets with his cronies > that would pay more than winning. Or a mob group threatened him. If > you follow Gary's description it sure sounds like he took a dive. Except that all this was filmed 2 months ago. Many people knew the outcome already, including himself. I guess there could have been a bet before taping, but nobody knew he was going to be bet-worthy back then. He could have gone down in the first one or two rounds. Any bet beforehand would have just been a token bet between friends - not bookies. There are no previous stats to judge how Jeopardy Smart" he is, unlike sports betting where you have stats and know who's bigger and better (supposedly). No bookie is going to take significant bets on any of that for anyone. Imagine if Hollyfield vs Tyson II was being broadcast tomorrow night for the first time. What odds will you give me that Tyson will be disqualified in the 11th for a biting the left ear of Holyfield - 1,000,000 to 1? :-). -sw |
| Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jun 05 04:52PM -0500 On Wed, 05 Jun 2019 09:21:31 -0400, Gary wrote: > high stakes. Perhaps the "mob" bet heavily on that happening and > threatened him and all his family (including the cute young > daughter). Lose tonight or you all die. See my response to Ed up there ^^^^^ -sw |
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