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| tert in seattle <tert@ftupet.com>: Jun 03 04:51PM >Amazon Prime CC $ 25 rebate of 5% with an Amazon Prime card >So looking around at competitive prices and good timing, I saved $180 >over just going to the big box store. over the past few years I've seen lots of reports of Amazon workers being mistreated - underpaid, injured on the job, in fact I think nine people have died working for Amazon since 2013 haven't heard any similar reports about the big box stores |
| Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 04 04:32AM +1000 On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 16:51:50 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle >mistreated - underpaid, injured on the job, in fact I think nine people >have died working for Amazon since 2013 >haven't heard any similar reports about the big box stores Not too critical, please. This is RFC. |
| Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 03 02:33PM -0400 On 6/3/2019 12:51 PM, tert in seattle wrote: > mistreated - underpaid, injured on the job, in fact I think nine people > have died working for Amazon since 2013 > haven't heard any similar reports about the big box stores You should read more https://homedepotaccidents.com/my-story https://www.rosenfeldinjurylawyers.com/home-depot-workers.html https://www.lubbockonline.com/article/20160221/NEWS/302219942 https://www.osha.gov/news/newsreleases/region5/08262013 https://www.burwellnebout.com/blog/2014/08/home-depots-record-of-serious-safety-violations-continues-into-2014.shtml between 1999 - 2002, nine workers died at Home Depot stores Sad that people die on the job but don't knock one place when others are as bad. I'm still dollars ahead though. |
| dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 03 11:58AM -0700 On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 7:00:06 AM UTC-10, tert in seattle wrote: > mistreated - underpaid, injured on the job, in fact I think nine people > have died working for Amazon since 2013 > haven't heard any similar reports about the big box stores 9 people dead in 6 years doesn't seem to be that many. My guess is that working for Amazon is a pretty safe gig. OTOH, working in any warehouse or being in the business of moving a shitload of product probably has it's hazards. Look on the bright side - soon, most of the warehouse workers will be replaced by machines. That's a win-win situation, ain't it? https://www.workingmother.com/amazon-is-looking-for-5000-work-from-home-employees |
| Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 04 05:03AM +1000 On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 11:58:14 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote: >> have died working for Amazon since 2013 >> haven't heard any similar reports about the big box stores >9 people dead in 6 years doesn't seem to be that many. My guess is that working for Amazon is a pretty safe gig. OTOH, working in any warehouse or being in the business of moving a shitload of product probably has it's hazards. Look on the bright side - soon, most of the warehouse workers will be replaced by machines. That's a win-win situation, ain't it? Yes, because soon everybody will be vegetarian and they'll need time to grow their own vegetables. |
| dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 03 12:14PM -0700 On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 9:03:09 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > >9 people dead in 6 years doesn't seem to be that many. My guess is that working for Amazon is a pretty safe gig. OTOH, working in any warehouse or being in the business of moving a shitload of product probably has it's hazards. Look on the bright side - soon, most of the warehouse workers will be replaced by machines. That's a win-win situation, ain't it? > Yes, because soon everybody will be vegetarian and they'll need time > to grow their own vegetables. In the future, people will neither grow their own food nor cook - except for a few bohemian types. Mostly, the people shall consume product produced in the most efficient and cost-effective way and people shall no longer suffer from hunger. It's going to be, as they say, "all good." |
| Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 04 05:26AM +1000 On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 12:14:38 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote: >> Yes, because soon everybody will be vegetarian and they'll need time >> to grow their own vegetables. >In the future, people will neither grow their own food nor cook - except for a few bohemian types. Mostly, the people shall consume product produced in the most efficient and cost-effective way and people shall no longer suffer from hunger. It's going to be, as they say, "all good." If you look that far ahead, humanity will have moved to another planet, having made this one uninhabitable. |
| Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 03 12:42PM -0700 On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 3:14:43 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote: > > Yes, because soon everybody will be vegetarian and they'll need time > > to grow their own vegetables. > In the future, people will neither grow their own food nor cook - except for a few bohemian types. Mostly, the people shall consume product produced in the most efficient and cost-effective way and people shall no longer suffer from hunger. It's going to be, as they say, "all good." They've been predicting that for decades. Yet there always seems to be something standing in the way of people having enough to eat. Typically, it's other people. With guns. Cindy Hamilton |
| "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 03 07:58AM -0700 On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 9:51:02 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote: > My mother told me she used to pour almost boiling water from a tea > kettle over clean dishes the the dish rack to *dry* them. Didn't use a > dish towel. That would certainly speed the drying time! |
| jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 03 11:18AM -0400 >> kettle over clean dishes the the dish rack to *dry* them. Didn't use a >> dish towel. > That would certainly speed the drying time! A very old trick but it works. Of course I never have a tea kettle with boiling water on the stove. I just let the dishes air dry in the dish drainer/rack. No need to rush or use towels. Jill |
| penmart01@aol.com: Jun 03 12:19PM -0400 On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 07:23:21 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" >> use it for... for two people it's easier to wash by hand. >The only dishwasher here is me; kitchen is too small for one as much as I'd >like have one at times. I'll bet there'd some way to arrange things that you can install a dishwasher but if there's only one or two people you really don't need one. We feed cats so have more of their food and water bowls than our dishes, plus we wouldn't place cat food bowls in the dish washer. Actually people food dishes can become ripe when sitting in a dishwasher all day. I don't like any dirty dishes in the sink either, reminds me of an unflushed toilet. I do all the dish washing by hand and right away. The dishwasher is only used for plastic food containers and maybe some empty glass jars, hand washing plastic they still feel oily. We also don't generate a lot of dishes as we use paper plates whenever possible, we don't need to use dishes to eat a sandwhich, and then the paper plate becomes a cat food bowl. We buy plain paper plates in cartons of 1,000 from BJs for under $10, so they cost less than 1¢ each, cheaper than washing dishes. And paper plates are produced and packaged entirely by machine, never touched by human hands so they are sterile. Dishes sitting in a kitchen cabinet are far from sterile. We eat fried food from paper plates, they absorb a lot of fat calories. |
| Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 03 09:48AM -0700 On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 10:51:02 AM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote: > My mother told me she used to pour almost boiling water from a tea > kettle over clean dishes the the dish rack to *dry* them. Didn't use a > dish towel. I've heard of that before. I wonder if that started when people washed dishes mainly in cold water. Cindy Hamilton |
| Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jun 03 09:51AM -0700 On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 12:19:11 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote: > are produced and packaged entirely by machine, never touched by human > hands so they are sterile. Dishes sitting in a kitchen cabinet are > far from sterile. And yet millions of people fail to get sick from eating off of un-sterile dishes from their cabinets. Perhaps sterile dishes aren't necessary. Cindy Hamilton |
| Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 03 02:01PM -0400 On 6/3/2019 12:51 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > And yet millions of people fail to get sick from eating off of un-sterile > dishes from their cabinets. Perhaps sterile dishes aren't necessary. > Cindy Hamilton Sure, the dishes are sanitized and go from machine to cabinet. They don't get wiped with a dirty towel that has been used to wipe slop. |
| "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 03 11:04AM -0700 On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 11:19:11 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: > I'll bet there'd some way to arrange things that you can install a > dishwasher but if there's only one or two people you really don't need > one. You are correct, with just me here there's no need for a dishwasher. However, this 9x11 BEFORE appliances and BEFORE upper and lower cabinets with THREE doorways there is absolutely no way, ever, to have a dishwasher installed. I remodeled the 1923 kitchen several years ago and could have opted at that time for a dishwasher but in a kitchen this small storage space was a prime issue. > We feed cats so have more of their food and water bowls than our > dishes, plus we wouldn't place cat food bowls in the dish washer. Pema the cat only gets dry cat food which is in a drop feeder with about 6 or 7 varieties layered in the feeder. Once in a while she will get a tiny can of wet food. Her water bowl is a cat water fountain. > We also don't generate a lot of dishes as we use > paper plates whenever possible, we don't need to use dishes to eat a > sandwich. I, too, am a fan of paper plates. Sandwiches, cheese and crackers, peanut butter and crackers, piece of pie or cake; the list is long. Once used, they go into the recycle bin. |
| Bruce <bruce@invalid.invalid>: Jun 04 05:05AM +1000 On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:51:03 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton >> far from sterile. >And yet millions of people fail to get sick from eating off of un-sterile >dishes from their cabinets. Perhaps sterile dishes aren't necessary. Are you questioning Popeye? Do you know how strong he is? |
| lucretiaborgia@fl.it: Jun 03 04:12PM -0300 >Our machine runs pretty much every other day. We have enough dishes and >stuff to easily go a few days to fill the machine. Saves water, saves >time, perfectly clean dishes. Ditto - I'm not going to do a job a machine can do :) |
| dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 03 12:25PM -0700 > >stuff to easily go a few days to fill the machine. Saves water, saves > >time, perfectly clean dishes. > Ditto - I'm not going to do a job a machine can do :) Were truer words ever spoken? I don't think so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYFg28sgQU0 |
| jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jun 03 10:58AM -0400 > There's no point in making banana ice cream when it so much easier to > peel a ripe banana, wrap it in wax paper, and pop it in the freezer. > You get the full natural banana flavor, not watered down with dairy. Frozen bananas aside, it was just a few days ago she posted she did not like ice cream. She'll justify it by saying she was a kid. Then suddenly morphed into someone who made banana ice cream from scratch. Uh huh. Jill |
| tert in seattle <tert@ftupet.com>: Jun 03 04:42PM >The ice cream is made at a small creamery in Sarasotaa s Amish village of >Pinecraft. Every tub of Big Olaf Ice Cream is hand mixed with the finest >ingredients and is then churned in batch freezers by local Amish Craftsmen. I was just reading about this Amish vacation spot, main pic is at an ice cream place - doesn't say if it's Olaf's though. <https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/31/amish-on-holiday-sarasota-florida-dina-litovsky-photo-essay> |
| Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 03 01:53PM -0400 On 6/3/2019 12:42 PM, tert in seattle wrote: > I was just reading about this Amish vacation spot, main pic is at an > ice cream place - doesn't say if it's Olaf's though. > <https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/31/amish-on-holiday-sarasota-florida-dina-litovsky-photo-essay> That may be the place that does the dairy stuff for them and built the freezers. This is from Olaf's web site: Our primary focus is to serve ice cream parlors with a full range of premium frozen products. The ice cream is made at a small creamery in Sarasota's Amish village of Pinecraft. Every tub of Big Olaf Ice Cream is hand mixed with the finest ingredients and is then churned in batch freezers by local Amish Craftsmen. If you Google the locations, the one in Sarasota is cash only. That makes sense too. |
| penmart01@aol.com: Jun 03 11:36AM -0400 On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 05:58:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton >he almost certainly has a boiler for heat and forced-air for >cooling. Two separate systems. >Cindy Hamilton I have a commercial cast iron boiler with oil burner I had converted to propane for heat. We have central A/C, totally separate from the heating system. Hot water is a tankless on-demand unit. In case of a power failure during winter we have a ventless propane heater so pipes don't freeze. Our heating is serviced by the company we buy propane from. Our central air is serviced by a company that installs and services A/C plus sells heating oil and diesel, they deliver the off-road diesel for our tractors. |
| penmart01@aol.com: Jun 03 11:40AM -0400 >as different building techniques. >And furthermore I've never had a basement and don't want nor need one. I >do have a GREEN tractor. What's a GREEN tractor,,, a John Deere! |
| jay <jay@mail.com>: Jun 03 11:12AM -0600 >> And furthermore I've never had a basement and don't want nor need one. I >> do have a GREEN tractor. > What's a GREEN tractor,,, a John Deere! JD says use 87 to 92 octane fuel. I am using 91 but can also find 93. I wonder if it would like that higher octane? It really seems to run better with 91 than 87. I have also had a diesel model which I liked very much. |
| John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 03 09:52AM -0700 And FUCK YOU!! John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Athletically BACK! |
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