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| songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jun 09 05:38PM -0400 KenK wrote: > had cooked and put the crock pot on low to keep the beans hot until supper. > Tasted same as usual. Now I think I will start skipping the soaking of the > beans when they are prepared in the crock pot. it seems to depend upon what else you put in the water that the beans are cooking in. for the best results that i like i cook the beans in plain water until they are just about done and then add the rest of the items that need to cook as i don't like vegetables without some firmness to them, but i want the beans and bean skins to be tender. if i add other things too early the bean skins can be a bit chewy. since there are many different kinds of beans and they can take different amounts of time to cook i don't really plan on a specific time i just put them in the water and bring them to a boil and then simmer them on low until they are done enough. i stir when i'm bringing them to a boil and then i turn down the heat and stir again before noting the time and then after that i stir them once every half hour until done. i don't pre-soak any beans unless i'm making soymilk or tofu (which i don't do often at all any more). i do visually inspect and rinse them off before cooking. the beans Mom got recently from the store were pretty bad, a lot of bug/rodent damage and a lot of dirt. i'd have been ashamed to sell beans in that condition. songbird |
| dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 09 02:54PM -0700 On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 9:23:53 AM UTC-10, S Viemeister wrote: > On 6/9/2020 7:59 PM, dsi1 wrote: > > She also made some rice that was uncooked in the center. I told her to soak the rice for about 20 minutes before cooking. She said "okay", now she cooks rice proper. For rice, a pre-soak is recommended. Well, by me, anyway. > I soak black rice, but I don't bother doing it for basmati, jasmine, etc. I've never cooked black rice. I think Asians, for the most part, don't do much fooling around with other kinds of rice. Mostly, I just cook with Calrose rice. I don't want to mess with brown rice or long grain rice. Why is that? I do not know. You'd think Asians wold be cooking all kinds of rice. |
| dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 09 03:14PM -0700 On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 11:39:00 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote: > lot of dirt. i'd have been ashamed to sell beans > in that condition. > songbird I'm no expert on cooking beans but I add very little, if any, salt to beans while cooking. If you salt the beans too early, they take longer to cook. Sometimes, they'll never get soft. Salt has a detrimental effect on cooking potatoes and meat too. |
| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 10 08:22AM +1000 On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 14:54:43 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote: >> > She also made some rice that was uncooked in the center. I told her to soak the rice for about 20 minutes before cooking. She said "okay", now she cooks rice proper. For rice, a pre-soak is recommended. Well, by me, anyway. >> I soak black rice, but I don't bother doing it for basmati, jasmine, etc. >I've never cooked black rice. I think Asians, for the most part, don't do much fooling around with other kinds of rice. That's a huge blanket statement right there, coming from a little rock in the Pacific! |
| dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 09 03:53PM -0700 On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 12:23:04 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote: > >I've never cooked black rice. I think Asians, for the most part, don't do much fooling around with other kinds of rice. > That's a huge blanket statement right there, coming from a little rock > in the Pacific! Indeed it is! |
| Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: Jun 09 04:06PM -0700 On 6/9/2020 3:14 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> songbird > I'm no expert on cooking beans but I add very little, if any, salt to beans while cooking. If you salt the beans too early, they take longer to cook. Sometimes, they'll never get soft. Salt has a detrimental effect on cooking potatoes and meat too. Please elaborate: "Salt has a detrimental effect on cooking potatoes and meat too." |
| dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 09 04:27PM -0700 On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 1:06:41 PM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote: > > I'm no expert on cooking beans but I add very little, if any, salt to beans while cooking. If you salt the beans too early, they take longer to cook. Sometimes, they'll never get soft. Salt has a detrimental effect on cooking potatoes and meat too. > Please elaborate: "Salt has a detrimental effect on cooking potatoes and > meat too." If you make shoyu pork, it is important to not add shoyu until later on in the cooking process. If you add it too fast, it tends to toughen/dry the meat. I've cooked potatoes in the slow cooker in a stew and it would not soften up. First I cooked it for half-hour longer, then another half-hour, after another half-hour, I just gave up and ate these uncooked potatoes. I won't salt beans until after they're done as a general principle. |
| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 10 09:39AM +1000 On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 16:27:04 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote: >> Please elaborate: "Salt has a detrimental effect on cooking potatoes and >> meat too." >If you make shoyu pork, it is important to not add shoyu until later on in the cooking process. If you add it too fast, it tends to toughen/dry the meat. I've cooked potatoes in the slow cooker in a stew and it would not soften up. First I cooked it for half-hour longer, then another half-hour, after another half-hour, I just gave up and ate these uncooked potatoes. I won't salt beans until after they're done as a general principle. And how about the other Asians? |
| Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Jun 09 02:18PM -0700 On 2020 Jun 7, , Dave Smith wrote > Herons in this area. A few years ago I started seeing egrets near the > Niagara River. This year we started seeing a single egret flying across > the field behind our house. They're all shitepokes. Well, that's what they were called in North Dakota where my dad grew up. leo |
| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 10 07:22AM +1000 On Tue, 09 Jun 2020 14:18:43 -0700, Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> the field behind our house. >They're all shitepokes. Well, that's what they were called in North >Dakota where my dad grew up. Oh, I thought you were talking about your least favourite minority. |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 09 05:32PM -0400 On 2020-06-09 5:18 p.m., Leo wrote: >> the field behind our house. > They're all shitepokes. Well, that's what they were called in North > Dakota where my dad grew up. I never heard that one before. A few years ago we were kayaking in a local waterway when one flew by. One of the older guys, a nature enthusiast commented that they look prehistoric and that the noise them make sounds primitive but you rarely hear them. He had no sooner said that when the bird squawked. He was so right. |
| Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Jun 09 04:09PM -0700 On 2020 Jun 9, , Bruce wrote > Oh, I thought you were talking about your least favourite minority. My least favorite minorities are Dutch immigrants to Australia that post on RFC, but I'm working on it. Kumbaya. leo |
| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 10 09:23AM +1000 On Tue, 09 Jun 2020 16:09:08 -0700, Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> Oh, I thought you were talking about your least favourite minority. >My least favorite minorities are Dutch immigrants to Australia that post on >RFC, but I'm working on it. Yeah, they're terrible people. I hear they read ingredient lists! >Kumbaya. May all your Christmases be white. |
| Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 09 06:29PM -0500 Bruce wrote: > Yeah, they're terrible people. I hear they read ingredient lists! >> Kumbaya. > May all your Christmases be white. And may all your ass sniffing be ... uh, smelly. |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 09 05:14PM -0400 On 2020-06-09 4:09 p.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> Black or African American 2,491 189 2,245 >> Black lives do matter but they have to stop killing each other too! > what do percentages have to do with how we treat others? It looks like it is a matter of how percentages of people treat others. |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 09 05:16PM -0400 On 2020-06-09 4:35 p.m., Sqwertz wrote: >> are in danger of profiling and beating. >> Janet US > How about all the good and fair cops? Black or white? There was a big stink when a black guy in NJ <?> died in the back of a paddy wagon allegedly driven down an especially rough road. It all died down when it turned out the guys in charge of the vehicle were not white. |
| Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 10 07:16AM +1000 On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 17:08:59 -0400, Dave Smith >to be politically incorrect. It is not good to run one's live on a set >of stereotypes, but sometimes people have to come to grips with the idea >that there is often a root cause to those stereotypes. I wish politically correct people would start by accepting the facts. And then apply their politically correct ideology. Not the other way around. They shouldn't filter or deny facts, just because they don't match the ideology. |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 09 05:18PM -0400 On 2020-06-09 4:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote: > But the number of black on black homicides is still a higher rate than > any other. The facts are not racist. 13% of the population is > committing a disproportionate number of murders to themselves. Let me quote Arthur Simeon, a Canadian Ugandan comedian.... "That's racist..... and true." |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 09 05:24PM -0400 On 2020-06-09 4:41 p.m., Sqwertz wrote: > using reason and logic is not racist. That Mantra Defense needs to > stop. Calling somebody a racist for that is simply a cop-out to > ignore the facts - there is no correlation at all. It is the manta of the week minded. Our idiot prime minister pulled the same stunt when woman angrily confronted him about the "irregular" border crossing asylum seekers stream into Quebec. He called her a racist and they tried to paint her as belonging to a racist group. She had dared to complain that the federal government was allowing this people to enter the country illegally by the thousands and leaving the province with the cost of welfare, housing, health care, education etc. She had a valid point. If the feds were going to let them in they should pay for their care. I don't think that is asking too much, but he dismissed her demand as racist. |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 09 05:25PM -0400 On 2020-06-09 4:42 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote: > Beats me, Why do a small percentage of the population tend to kill each > other more than other segments? Fact is, they do. I guess they don't > teat each other very well. They do it in the US. They do it in Canada. They do it in Africa. They do it in the Caribbean..... It is strange, because so many of them are really nice people. |
| dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>: Jun 09 02:26PM -0700 On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 11:01:29 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote: > That "disbanding" resulted in many more police in the new department. > That must have had something to do with the results. As did other > changes in approach. I can't say that I know anything about the effectiveness of these measures but my guess is that doing something is better than doing nothing. |
| Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 09 05:37PM -0400 On 6/9/2020 3:55 PM, Bruce wrote: >> I can't say if this generation is going to finish the work that the boomers aspired to during the civil rights movement. De-funding/disbanding the police is a fairly radical idea. Hopefully, we'll get a chance to see if it works. > Disbanding the police and then what? Survival of the fittest in the > streets? One town did that. It was a way to get rid of some of the bad cops protected by the union. Everyone is fired, you are unemployed as of midnight. Oh, we are starting another security force. You can apply if you'd like. We have high standards and tough rules now. |
| Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 09 04:43PM -0500 Bruce wrote: >> Yoose must be kidding. Everybody in the US carries a gun. Ain't nobody gonna try to pull nutting funny! > You'd get armed gangs controlling the streets. Leaving the house would > be a big risk. Would sure put the quietus on your favorite hobby. |
| Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 09 07:18PM -0400 On 2020-06-09 4:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote: > homicide victims, making up more than 50 percent of the broader pool of > those killed overall every year since 2010. The number of black victims > increased 15 percent in 2015 over 2014. Wow.... if this women had been white and/or male the comments would have been declared to be racist. It is an amazing perspective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtPfoEvNJ74&feature=youtu.be |
| Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jun 09 06:00PM -0500 On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 15:29:15 -0500, Ned Ryerson wrote: > A tile roof repair for $125K > Hmmmm, tough call there, eh? > John must be the stupidest mother fucker on Earth. https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&hl=en#!original/rec.food.cooking/FNhhCLNwz7U/CxY2dhXIAQAJ "All this talk about a mortgage did give me one cool idea. If I obtain a loan\note and a mortgage after I buy this house cash I COULD do the roof entirely in Tesla's "Tuscan" style solar roof tiles! And the three car garage in flat ones! Hmmmmm! :-) John Kuthe" -sw |
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