Tuesday, June 9, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 7 topics

Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Jun 09 04:57PM -0700

On 2020 Jun 9, , Gary wrote
 
> Have you ever heard two real cats, late at night outside,
> getting ready to fight? Very creepy sounds as they stand
> there yelling at each other before the battle begins.
 
They make creepy noises at night when they're doing "other things"
too.
 
leo
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 09 07:11PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 6:57:15 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
 
> They make creepy noises at night when they're doing "other things"
> too.
 
> Leo
 
Oh?
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Jun 09 07:43PM -0700

On 2020 Jun 9, , itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote
 
> > They make creepy noises at night when they're doing "other things"
> > too.
> Oh?
 
'Nuff said. It's naughty.
 
leo
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jun 09 07:18PM -0400

On 2020-06-09 4:39 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> homicide victims, making up more than 50 percent of the broader pool of
> those killed overall every year since 2010. The number of black victims
> increased 15 percent in 2015 over 2014.
 
 
Wow.... if this women had been white and/or male the comments would have
been declared to be racist. It is an amazing perspective.
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtPfoEvNJ74&feature=youtu.be
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jun 09 09:38PM -0400

On 6/9/2020 5:26 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> That must have had something to do with the results. As did other
>> changes in approach.
 
> I can't say that I know anything about the effectiveness of these measures but my guess is that doing something is better than doing nothing.
 
I grew up in Philadelphia, across the river from Camden. It had a bad
reputation and we never went ther as it was not safe. Sounds like big
changes are helping.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 09 06:55PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 6:42:17 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> and the rest of society. Who did not join. Especially outside of the
> US it's virtue signaling. "Look at what a good person I am. I'm upset
> by the death of someone I don't know at the other side of the world!"
 
Spoken like true White Person!
 
John Kuthe...
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 09 09:41PM -0500

John Kuthe wrote:
>> by the death of someone I don't know at the other side of the world!"
 
> Spoken like true White Person!
 
> John Kuthe...
 
Be sure to wear your face mask when you go out to demonstrate.
Mike Duffy <bogus@nosuch.com>: Jun 10 02:25AM

On Tue, 09 Jun 2020 06:58:57 -0400, Gary wrote:
 
>> I realize now that there are 2 different guys in Hawaii. (ds1 &
>> Sheldon)
 
> That's news to me. ;)
 
It was a mistake. I already owned up to it.
 
It was a mistake I made a long time ago due to using a new newsreader and
not paying enough attention to attributions.
 
 
I never noticed in part because I don't read ALL the traffic. If I've
been away for a few days I usually just get today's messages, and even
then I usually look at just a thread or two.
 
I also suspect that sometimes some people end up getting forged. Usually
when I see a post that looks out of character for someone, I ignore it.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jun 09 07:03PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 3:29:24 PM UTC-5, Ned Ryerson wrote:
> A tile roof repair for $125K
 
> Hmmmm, tough call there, eh?
 
> John must be the stupidest mother fucker on Earth.
 
It's called "Restoration"
 
https://i.postimg.cc/fLBDYNMd/Mulched-Front-11-21-19.jpg
 
My house has a beautiful clay tile roof which requires an expert restorer, and I found one.
 
http://www.oldworldroofingco.com/Testimonials.php
 
John Kuthe...
Nellie <julie.nils@gmail.com>: Jun 09 07:16PM -0700

John Kuthe said
 
It's called "Restoration"
 
https://i.postimg.cc/fLBDYNMd/Mulched-Front-11-21-19.jpg
 
My house has a beautiful clay tile roof which requires an expert restorer, and I found one.
 
http://www.oldworldroofingco.com/Testimonials.php
 
John Kuthe...
 
=============
 
Those testimonials are from 2008
And you said they were too busy to get back
To you on a timely manner
Too funny, have they done anything since then?
 
Nellie
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 10 09:23AM +1000

On Tue, 09 Jun 2020 16:09:08 -0700, Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
 
 
>> Oh, I thought you were talking about your least favourite minority.
 
>My least favorite minorities are Dutch immigrants to Australia that post on
>RFC, but I'm working on it.
 
Yeah, they're terrible people. I hear they read ingredient lists!
 
>Kumbaya.
 
May all your Christmases be white.
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Jun 09 05:17PM -0700

On 2020 Jun 7, , itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote
> the name
> of Des Moine and it will be mangled to 'Dez Moines.' When I hear those places
> mispronounced it just makes my hair stand on end.
 
Don't forget Pierre, South Dakota. Oh, and Bar Dough was a hot French
chick who made some movies in the sixties. She was also the main early
promotion tool for the bikini, so good for her!
 
leo
Hank Rogers <Nospam@invalid.com>: Jun 09 06:29PM -0500

Bruce wrote:
 
> Yeah, they're terrible people. I hear they read ingredient lists!
 
>> Kumbaya.
 
> May all your Christmases be white.
 
And may all your ass sniffing be ... uh, smelly.
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>: Jun 09 05:30PM -0700

On 2020 Jun 7, , graham wrote
 
> Wymondham is pronounced Windum.
> Happisburgh is Hazebruh.
 
Worcestershire is pronounced Woostashur. Blame William the Conqueror. He
ruined English with his snotty French invasion. Ewwww!
 
leo
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 10 10:45AM +1000

On Tue, 09 Jun 2020 17:30:38 -0700, Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
 
>> Happisburgh is Hazebruh.
 
>Worcestershire is pronounced Woostashur. Blame William the Conqueror. He
>ruined English with his snotty French invasion. Ewwww!
 
Half your language is French. He got you good!
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 09 07:01PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 4:22:33 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
 
> >They're all shitepokes. Well, that's what they were called in North
> >Dakota where my dad grew up.
 
> Oh, I thought you were talking about your least favourite minority.
 
I'd never heard that term but looked it up and it's an actual term for
these and other birds.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 09 07:07PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 7:17:48 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
> chick who made some movies in the sixties. She was also the main early
> promotion tool for the bikini, so good for her!
 
> Leo
 
We've all heard of the city of La-FEE-et, Louisiana and of course the
French general of which the city is named for. There is a street here
and a town about 65 miles east of me with the same name. However, it
is pronounced La-fay-et.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 09 07:08PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 7:30:43 PM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
 
> Worcestershire is pronounced Woostashur.
 
> Leo
 
That's the way I pronounce it.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jun 10 09:39AM +1000

On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 16:27:04 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:
 
 
>> Please elaborate: "Salt has a detrimental effect on cooking potatoes and
>> meat too."
 
>If you make shoyu pork, it is important to not add shoyu until later on in the cooking process. If you add it too fast, it tends to toughen/dry the meat. I've cooked potatoes in the slow cooker in a stew and it would not soften up. First I cooked it for half-hour longer, then another half-hour, after another half-hour, I just gave up and ate these uncooked potatoes. I won't salt beans until after they're done as a general principle.
 
And how about the other Asians?
Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: Jun 09 04:06PM -0700

On 6/9/2020 3:14 PM, dsi1 wrote:
 
>> songbird
 
> I'm no expert on cooking beans but I add very little, if any, salt to beans while cooking. If you salt the beans too early, they take longer to cook. Sometimes, they'll never get soft. Salt has a detrimental effect on cooking potatoes and meat too.
 
Please elaborate: "Salt has a detrimental effect on cooking potatoes and
meat too."
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jun 09 09:10PM -0400

dsi1 wrote:
...
> I'm no expert on cooking beans but I add very little, if any, salt to beans while cooking. If you salt the beans too early, they take longer to cook. Sometimes, they'll never get soft. Salt has a detrimental effect on cooking potatoes and meat too.
 
i don't salt things often here at all. garlic salt is
used on a few things.
 
i guess the salt comes in with the butter and some
other things we eat.
 
 
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jun 09 09:13PM -0400

dsi1 wrote:
...
> I've never cooked black rice. I think Asians, for the most part, don't do much fooling around with other kinds of rice. Mostly, I just cook with Calrose rice. I don't want to mess with brown rice or long grain rice. Why is that? I do not know. You'd think Asians wold be cooking all kinds of rice.
 
i liked brown rice cooked with lentils since they seemed
to cook in about the same length of time.
 
these days i'm just not much into rice. i ate too much
of it. i can't say i've ever reached that point with
beans. :)
 
 
songbird
Mike Duffy <bogus@nosuch.com>: Jun 10 01:44AM

On Tue, 09 Jun 2020 16:06:37 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
 
> Please elaborate: Salt has a detrimental effect
 
Salt (or sugar) pulls water through semi-permeable membranes via the
process of osmosis. Individual cells within a permeable extracellular
matrix, and to a lesser extent exterior skins of organs are such
membranes.
 
So it will dry out both animal AND vegetable material. (And fungal if you
want to be picky.)
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracellular_matrix
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jun 09 06:55PM -0700

On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 8:14:21 PM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
 
> i guess the salt comes in with the butter and some
> other things we eat.
 
> songbird
 
Garlic salt is predominantly salt with a bit of garlic added.
Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>: Jun 09 06:58PM -0500

On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 11:10:56 -0700 (PDT), itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net
wrote:
 
> tough is adding salt to the water when the cooking starts. Leave that
> addition until just ready to serve; salt, stir, and let barely simmer for
> a couple of minutes.
 
I've never done side-by-side tests myself, but I have heard from a
few reliable sources that salting during the soak and/or cook
doesn't affect the bean tenderness - it's all just a kitchen myth.
I sometimes soak, sometimes not, but I always salt and never had a
problem except for old garbonzo beans.
 
-=sw
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