Tuesday, July 14, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jul 14 11:08AM +0100

"Gary" wrote in message news:5F0D7CDD.EA355CE4@att.net...
 
Ophelia wrote:
 
> ===
 
> Huh. Nowt wrong with your English lad!!!
 
> :)
 
In the world of painting, a "holiday" is a missed (unpainted)
part. You don't use a razor blade to remove a holiday, you
use your brush to paint it.
 
==
 
OK:))
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 14 07:33AM -0400

Bruce wrote:
> >> IMO, he's a fundamentally decent person, and hasn't given anyone here other than me a reason to "hate" him, but he has a messed up mind. He's pathetic, and nicer persons than me might find him pitiable. I guess that I don't even really hate him anymore, and these days there are a lot of folks more worthy of my capacity to hate.
 
> >To hate someone means you're still attached to them.
 
> Are you saying the whole world is attached to Donald Trump?
 
I know you are. You can't help but to mention him every day.
 
Time to let all the Trump conflicts here die. In less than
4 months now, we'll see what happens. There's no need to
argue pro or con here in RFC.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 14 07:35AM -0400

Alex wrote:
> Is TSP the best for preparing surfaces like he has?
 
TSP is good for exterior washing. In real life, don't even
need to use that. Just plain water washes off all the dirt
and grime. Exterior surfaces should always be washed, no
exceptions.
 
For inside painting, most doesn't ever need to be washed
unless a smoker inside or in well-used kitchens that
can accumulate grease. Even hand oils around kitchen
cabinets and door edges need to be cleaned.
 
For inside cleaning, I found a new product a few years
ago and it's good.... "Greased Lightning"
 
For the serious grease problem, "Wilbond" is very good
but it's flamable and you need to wear a respirator
when using it. Only use this one for something that you
are going to paint...not for general cleaning.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 14 07:35AM -0400

Alex wrote:
 
> Even the best painters tape can't give you a
> perfectly clean line. Radii are even trickier to tape off. I do the
> best I can and clean up with a razor.
 
And don't buy those expensive plastic dispensers of
5-10 razor blades. Go to a paint store or hardware
store and buy them in boxes of 100 blades.
So very much cheaper per blade and they have many
uses, not just for paint on glass.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 14 09:40PM +1000


>Time to let all the Trump conflicts here die. In less than
>4 months now, we'll see what happens. There's no need to
>argue pro or con here in RFC.
 
There's no need for anything, but it can still be fun. Everybody I
know in real life agrees with me or hates him more than me. I defended
him at first.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 14 09:47PM +1000

>store and buy them in boxes of 100 blades.
>So very much cheaper per blade and they have many
>uses, not just for paint on glass.
 
I never used blades and rarely used tape. I just painted straight.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jul 14 08:23AM -0400

On 2020-07-14 1:04 a.m., Leo wrote:
>> and built the rec room.... and it was all done by Christmas,
 
> He should have flipped it. That's a thing. With four sons, he could have
> flipped a lot of old houses. I don't think that was a thing back then, > but it oughta been. Maybe, not enough margin or market.
 
He probably could have made a lot of money doing that. He did good work
and was fast and efficient. I know lots of people who have build a rec
room as a long term project. He did it on the weekend,tile floor, studs,
drop ceiling and paneling. His brother and SiL were flipping houses at
the time. They would buy a house, live in it for a year or two and move
on to another.
 
My best friends family flipped a few. They started off down the road
from us and did major renovations for a couple years then sold for a
handy profit and bought a 45 acre farm, did major and minor renovations
and made enough to move back to our old town in a much bigger and nice
house. This was just outside Toronto where real estate was booming. Then
they moved out to BC and went through a progression of nicer and nice
homes. They ended up with millions worth of real estate, mostly through
flips.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 14 07:36AM -0400

Alex wrote:
 
> > Sweat Equity?
 
> > John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
 
> Might have been easier to do the ceiling first.
 
Ceiling should always be painted first. Generally start
at the top and work down. Ceiling, walls then woodwork
last.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 14 09:46PM +1000


>Ceiling should always be painted first. Generally start
>at the top and work down. Ceiling, walls then woodwork
>last.
 
Would you use water or oil based paints for indoors woodwork?
 
Would you use a primer for indoor woodwork if you're painting over a
(sanded) old coating of oil based paint?
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 14 08:15AM -0400

Bruce wrote:
 
> Would you use water or oil based paints for indoors woodwork?
 
For interior woodwork, I've always preferred oil and it's
usually going over old oil paint - no primer necessary. It
gives a much smoother and harder finish.
Sadly, oil based paint is on the way out. It's already been
outlawed in northern Virginia years ago.

> Would you use a primer for indoor woodwork if you're painting over a
> (sanded) old coating of oil based paint?
 
All this is why I'm happy to be leaving the trade slowly.
 
Most old houses used oil paint on woodwork. Despite the
claims by paint companies, you can't sand and apply water
based paint on top. I tried it on my bathroom door...still
peels off. Not even water based primer that claim
to do the job.
 
You wouldn't believe how many houses I've had to fix after
someone used waterbased over oil. It's a real mess. You
can't sand it smooth, it just rolls up. Even a fingernail
can start a peel.
 
NOW, to use waterbased over oil paint, the only way to do
it properly is to use an oilbased primer first, then 2
coats of waterbased paint. The first coat soaks in a bit
and doesn't leave a good finish.
 
All of the sudden, you need to charge for 3 coats instead
of the normal two coats. Customers don't like that extra
cost.
 
I'm sure Joan could do it easily without the extra step
though. ;)
Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: Jul 14 05:12AM -0700

On 7/13/2020 10:36 PM, Daniel wrote:
 
> I got home and realized I bought sardines instead. Now why on earth
> would I confuse the two?
 
> https://www.omgwtflol.net/nextcloud/index.php/s/7JWfMZM3bpMkoXg
 
And they say fish is brain food!
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 14 04:46AM -0700

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 9:41:38 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
 
> porch, under the odd stained glass windows, and into ... that.
 
> We should talk more often, John.
 
> -sw
 
The Front "Grandma's Lavender" porch, NOT fuschia!
 
And the "that" to which you refer is called "Lacey Lavender", a very very light bluish color. Which needs just a little more painting, inside.
 
John Kuthe...
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 14 04:51AM -0700

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 10:05:44 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> Some of the old baseboard styles were very ornate. I remember painting
> the ones in my grandmothers house that was built about 1900.
 
> https://donpedrobrooklyn.com/baseboard-styles/
 
Yep, and this house was completed in 1930! Still a lot of ornate wood work! And built back when some people still had servants! In fact the Municipal Codes still contain the phrase "(excluding servants)", and NO ONE has servants anymore.
 
 
John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 14 07:37AM -0400

Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > On the same plate too. That dressing is good with
> > the red sauce.
 
> I can't recall ever having food nightmares, but if I did, jarred mayo mixed with ketchup might be a featured horror.
 
And in your nightmare, John K will serve it to you. lol
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 14 09:43PM +1000

>> > the red sauce.
 
>> I can't recall ever having food nightmares, but if I did, jarred mayo mixed with ketchup might be a featured horror.
 
>And in your nightmare, John K will serve it to you. lol
 
While on an LSD trip and dressed in women's clothes.
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jul 14 11:12AM +0100

"Bruce" wrote in message news:6pvqgfhkn2u3899554lobsja2qm57uue38@4ax.com...
 
On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:52:23 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
>Yes, it would be esthetically pleasing and symmetrical.
 
>==
 
>aesthetically :p
 
Oh no, I'm turning American!
 
=====
 
Pah! Behave yourself!!
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 14 08:50PM +1000

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:12:39 +0100, "Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:
 
 
>Oh no, I'm turning American!
 
>=====
 
> Pah! Behave yourself!!
 
I shall!
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 14 07:32AM -0400

Bruce wrote:
 
> >==
 
> >aesthetically :p
 
> Oh no, I'm turning American!
 
Reminds me of an old song I liked:
"Turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think
so"
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 14 09:38PM +1000


>Reminds me of an old song I liked:
>"Turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think
>so"
 
This one?
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCj2I0EJ9PM>
"Ophelia" <ophelia@elsinore.me.uk>: Jul 14 11:07AM +0100

"Leo" wrote in message
news:0001HW.24BDB3F500545651700007CB238F@News.Individual.Net...
 
On 2020 Jul 13, , itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net wrote
> on those walls nor am I sleeping on them. They can spend years, if need
> be, to dry until I paint again as I want to be done and finished with
> that chore.
 
Over the years, I've painted every room in my house with water based
paint except the bathrooms. I even went from whitish to forest green to
whitish in the living room. By the time I finished two walls, one was dry
enough and I had two to go. And then, I'd repeat.Once, I painted a
popcorn ceiling with a roller, and that didn't go well. That ceiling is
smooth, but painted, today. It's the only one in the house like that.
On the other hand, I don't paint fast and have had no interest in
painting more than one room in a day. So, unlike Gary, I paint a room as a
project, not a houseful of rooms as a job. Now, I won't even stand on the
bottom rung of a ladder without support, so my iffy painting days are over.
 
====
 
I am very glad you recognise that:))
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 14 07:34AM -0400

Hank Rogers wrote:
 
> Popeye, yoose didn't use ben moore's paint on yoose diesel tank.
> Yoose used el-cheapo rustoleum, but yoose almost popped yoose
> buttons off with pride.
 
In reality, many companies make good and bad products.
Ben Moore is the alpha and carries the good reputation.
They do make good products but are way overcharging for them.
Like buying a new TV and paying extra for the name, "Sony."
Many other equally good brands for less.
 
In my painting, I usually do use Ben Moore. They are good,
and I don't care about the cost because the customer pays
for paint, not me. I'm just the middle man for paint. I buy
it and pass the cost on to the customer. Customers like
the name brand.
 
Again, in reality, some best products are from other companies
and often cost less.
 
Rustoleum is a very good paint for metal surfaces and
very inexpensive. The Ben Moore metal paint is way more
expensive and not as good.
 
For sealing wooden decks with clear sealer, Thompson's
Water Seal (oil based) is just as good as any other
brand on the market and about 1/4 the cost of many.
And I've tried several other brands and noted the results.
 
In my work truck, I always keep about 6 different kinds
of primer. None is an all in one. Each brand has a use
for specific situation.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 14 07:04AM -0400

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 22:05:25 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.invalid>
wrote:
 
>posting this - to suck up to you. Because he knew you'd approve of
>it and that pleases him in some demented fashion.
 
>-sw
 
So claims the Demented Dwarf.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 14 09:19PM +1000

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 07:04:13 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>>it and that pleases him in some demented fashion.
 
>>-sw
 
>So claims the Demented Dwarf.
 
GM loves anybody who's very right wing. And will suck up to them. I
guess a Democrat once broke up with him in a very nasty way.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 14 07:33AM -0400


> I never buy a product or watch a TV show without first consulting with the
> Kardashians.
 
> (For the dense among us, that was sarcasm.)
 
I finally watched a few minutes of that show one night.
What a worthless gang that is.
Equally bad is the "Housewives of (various cities)" show.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 14 05:51AM -0400

Leo wrote:
> since. Nothing comes close to C-rations. They had way more ham to keep a
> soldier on the march.
 
> leo
 
As a kid, I've eaten some C-rations. Or maybe K-rations?
I seem to remember them as about sardine-sized green cans
or maybe just a tiny bit larger. Same shape though.
 
I thought they tasted well enough but then, I didn't have
to rely on just them for several days.
 
I'd like to try a few of the newer MREs someday.
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