Monday, July 27, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 6 topics

John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 27 12:59PM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 8:53:53 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> machine and she's been making excellent very comfy triple layer cloth
> masks in a variety of fabrics.
 
> Jill
 
I HAD an N95 mask once, that thing was THICK man! I washed it in cool water once and I could not even breathe through it! I had to dry it off when I got it home!
 
I like the disposable little paper SPIT GUARDS better! I wear them for my yard work too! :-)
 
John Kuthe...
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 28 06:01AM +1000

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 12:59:52 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
 
>> Jill
 
>I HAD an N95 mask once, that thing was THICK man! I washed it in cool water once and I could not even breathe through it! I had to dry it off when I got it home!
 
>I like the disposable little paper SPIT GUARDS better! I wear them for my yard work too! :-)
 
Do you live alone in that house during this covid crisis or do you
still have tenants?
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 27 01:08PM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 3:01:22 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
 
> >I like the disposable little paper SPIT GUARDS better! I wear them for my yard work too! :-)
 
> Do you live alone in that house during this covid crisis or do you
> still have tenants?
 
NONE of YOUR BUSINESS!
 
NO Covid 19 in THIS HOUSE! :-)
 
I'm an RN, I would know! Influenza is hard to hide! Coughing, pneumonia, etc. High temps, etc.
 
John Kuthe...
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 28 06:11AM +1000

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 13:08:26 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
 
>> Do you live alone in that house during this covid crisis or do you
>> still have tenants?
 
>NONE of YOUR BUSINESS!
 
You post every little detail about your life here, but the innocent
question whether you have tenants during the crisis is NONE OF MY
BUSINESS?
 
>NO Covid 19 in THIS HOUSE! :-)
 
And no tenants either.
 
>I'm an RN, I would know! Influenza is hard to hide! Coughing, pneumonia, etc. High temps, etc.
 
I'm not an RN and I'd have a pretty good idea too.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jul 27 01:45PM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 7:03:44 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
 
> > --Bryan
 
> Those are not a respirator, they are a SPIT GUARD! ;-) To insure YOU don't SPIT on others! A respirator is a machine which breathes for you.
 
> I'm an RN, I know!
 
You are a pervert who went into nursing with the hopes that you'd get to look at and touch female genitalia, especially young girls. Of course, almost everyone here already knows that.
 
I copied and pasted from merriam-webster.com
______________________________________________
 
Typically, a ventilator is a a device used to maintain artificial breathing or circulate fresh air, while a respirator is a mask used to protect the wearer from particulates in the air. Note that historically, respirator has been confused with ventilator often enough that it has a secondary definition similar to that of ventilator.
 
The COVID-19 pandemic has, for many people across the globe, brought about large questions, questions such as 'should I rethink my career?' 'why didn't anyone tell me that children are difficult to live with?' and 'what is the difference between a ventilator and a respirator?' Excellent questions all, and our answers are 'probably,' 'funny!' and 'see below.'
 
mechanical-ventilator
 
Ventilators vs. Respirators
 
The short answer is that ventilators are devices (designed to assist a patient breathe), and respirators are masks (designed to protect the wearer). The longer answer will, as longer answers so often do, slightly confuse things, so if you're looking for brevity and a misplaced feeling of clarity you should stop reading now.
 
The first definition we give for ventilator is the word's original sense, in use since the first half of the 18th century: "a device for introducing fresh air or expelling foul or stagnant air." The second sense is the one which is more often used today: "a device for maintaining artificial respiration especially :
a mechanized device that enables the delivery or movement of air and oxygen into the lungs of a patient whose breathing has ceased, is failing, or is inadequate; a mechanical ventilator" This definition includes the following note: "Modern, computerized mechanical ventilators typically monitor and customize gas delivery, maintain a constant pressure in the lungs to prevent the alveoli from collapsing, and deliver air and oxygen to the lungs by way of a tube inserted into the trachea through the mouth or nose."
 
We likewise offer two definitions for respirator. The first is the aforementioned one: "a mask or device worn over the mouth and nose to protect the respiratory system by filtering out dangerous substances (such as dusts, fumes, or bacteria) from inhaled air." This definition is also accompanied by a note: "Particulate respirator masks are only able to filter out particles and are not effective against gases or vapors. A numerical rating (such as 95 or 99) is sometimes assigned to such a respirator to indicate the percentage of particles filtered. A letter may also be assigned to indicate whether it is somewhat resistant (R), not resistant (NR), or strongly resistant (P) to the degrading effects of oil on proper respirator function."
Respirators Can Sometimes be Ventilators
 
However (and here we should note that however, although not defined as such, often functions as a word signifying that confusion is soon upon us), the second definition we give for respirator is "a device for maintaining artificial respiration; ventilator (sense b)." Why would we do such a thing? Because people have been using respirator to mean ventilator for a very long time. The 'mask' sense of respirator is older, dating to the first half of the 19th century, but the 'device' (or 'ventilator') sense of this word is almost as old, in use since the 1850s.
 
It can be confusing, as both words are concerned with breathing, or respiratory functions, and there is quite a bit of semantic overlap. If you are concerned about misuse simply restrict your use of respirator to the mask that protects the wearer (and others), and that of ventilator to the device that assists in breathing.
 
--Source:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/ventilator-or-respirator-difference
________________________________________
 
 
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jul 27 01:49PM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 8:53:53 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> don't need to order masks from a zoo. I have a friend who has a sewing
> machine and she's been making excellent very comfy triple layer cloth
> masks in a variety of fabrics.
 
While any mask is certain to improve your appearance, some of these animal ones are neat looking. I wish they made the chimp in adult size.
 
--Bryan
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 27 02:40PM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 3:45:05 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
 
> > Those are not a respirator, they are a SPIT GUARD! ;-) To insure YOU don't SPIT on others! A respirator is a machine which breathes for you.
 
> > I'm an RN, I know!
 
> You are a pervert who went into nursing with the hopes that you'd get to look at and touch female genitalia, especially young girls. Of course, almost everyone here already knows that.
...
 
Nope, I became a nurse to get a JOB in STL!
 
John Kuthe...
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 27 02:42PM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 3:49:15 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
 
> While any mask is certain to improve your appearance, some of these animal ones are neat looking. I wish they made the chimp in adult size.
 
> > Jill
 
> --Bryan
 
The problem I have with masks is people can't see each other smile! :-)
 
John Kuthe...
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 27 04:19PM -0400

On 7/27/2020 2:44 PM, Bruce wrote:
 
> We have a fireplace and an airco. The airco works well, but dehydrates
> everything. Us and the cats. Is that like your heat pump? Gas central
> heat sounds good.
 
One of the benefits here is that the AC does dry the air as it is a
humid region. Not sure how much St. Louis is by comparison but not real
dry. John says t is 30,000 Btu and that sounds about right for a 2,000
sq. ft. house.
 
The heat pump just reverses how AC things work and in moderate climates
very efficient. Cold here is 40F 4.5C Heat in winter is less than $1
a day. In CT is would be 8X to 10X that for oil. Gas was not available
on my steet.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 27 01:38PM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 3:19:19 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> very efficient. Cold here is 40F 4.5C Heat in winter is less than $1
> a day. In CT is would be 8X to 10X that for oil. Gas was not available
> on my steet.
 
Gas is no longer available in my house either! I had Spire Gas come out and pull the meter out! This house is 100% electric now, and ready for the 21st Century!
 
John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 27 04:49PM -0400

On 7/27/2020 3:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
 
> We got rid of gas cooking. I hated horsing around with those big gas
> bottles. They were always empty after dark and hard to attach
> properly.
 
That would be a PITA. We had two of them in CT and once a year a tank
truck came and filled them. Here we have natural gas piped from the
street. Hot water, dryer, stove, grill. Much better.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jul 27 04:59PM -0400

On 7/27/2020 3:44 PM, Bruce wrote:
 
>> America is the land where former luxuries are affordable for most everyone...this case in point being HVAC...in the past was automobiles, appliances, plumbing, etc....
 
> Yeah, in Europe people can't afford those things. The majority sleep
> under bridges and eat frogs that they catch.
 
If they cook the frogs on an electric hot plate they pay on average 50%
more than the US. Germany is about 3X what I pay in FL
Turkmenistan citizens get free electric, water, gas.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 28 07:18AM +1000

>humid region. Not sure how much St. Louis is by comparison but not real
>dry. John says t is 30,000 Btu and that sounds about right for a 2,000
>sq. ft. house.
 
It's humid here too most of the time, but not in winter.
 
>very efficient. Cold here is 40F 4.5C Heat in winter is less than $1
>a day. In CT is would be 8X to 10X that for oil. Gas was not available
>on my steet.
 
Here neither. We're also not connected to sewage or water.
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jul 27 02:19PM -0700

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> humid region. Not sure how much St. Louis is by comparison but not real
> dry. John says t is 30,000 Btu and that sounds about right for a 2,000
> sq. ft. house.
 
 
STL is an absolute sweat box in the summer...no large bodies of water (a la the Great Lakes or the Gulf...) to provide some wafting breezes on hot days...it's also somewhat in a river valley...the A/C season in STL can last from March until October...
 

> very efficient. Cold here is 40F 4.5C Heat in winter is less than $1
> a day. In CT is would be 8X to 10X that for oil. Gas was not available
> on my steet.
 
 
Heat pumps are good for your particular area, they do the job...
 
--
Best
Greg
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 28 07:20AM +1000


>If they cook the frogs on an electric hot plate they pay on average 50%
>more than the US. Germany is about 3X what I pay in FL
>Turkmenistan citizens get free electric, water, gas.
 
They can't afford electricity. They eat the frogs raw. Greg Sorrow has
the details.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 27 05:28PM -0400

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 12:54:34 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
 
>> > John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
 
>> Wow, that copper looks very nice. And expensive.
 
>Hell YES expensive! $113,671 worth of expensive! Copper and Stainless Steel nails, bronze caulking although I told them since all they had was white that that would be fine too! Any caulk is better than NO caulk! :-)
 
Could have had perfectly sufficient aluminum gutters for about $600.
And your copper gutters look like small capacity, during a heavy rain
will likely overflow. Your copper gutters are tantamount to an
undersized bra... like squeezing a D cup woman into a B cup bra.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 27 02:38PM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 4:28:49 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> And your copper gutters look like small capacity, during a heavy rain
> will likely overflow. Your copper gutters are tantamount to an
> undersized bra... like squeezing a D cup woman into a B cup bra.
 
But they would not be traditional! And they are NOT undersized, just not installed yet!
 
John Kuthe...
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 28 05:57AM +1000

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 12:52:35 -0700, Taxed and Spent
 
>Never mind all the rubbish replies you got.
 
>Make a wine reduction dessert sauce.
 
>You will use less sugar than is normally called for, so wing it.
 
Eeeew, this tastes awful. Let's make a dessert sauce with it!
Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: Jul 27 02:03PM -0700

On 7/27/2020 12:57 PM, Bruce wrote:
 
>> Make a wine reduction dessert sauce.
 
>> You will use less sugar than is normally called for, so wing it.
 
> Eeeew, this tastes awful. Let's make a dessert sauce with it!
 
You obviously know nothing about this matter.
 
"it tastes too sweet"
 
Dessert sauce: wine, sugar, reduction.
 
DUH.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 28 07:20AM +1000

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 14:03:53 -0700, Taxed and Spent
 
>"it tastes too sweet"
 
>Dessert sauce: wine, sugar, reduction.
 
>DUH.
 
I bet it doesn't just taste too sweet, but awful all around.
Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: Jul 27 02:23PM -0700

On 7/27/2020 2:20 PM, Bruce wrote:
 
>> Dessert sauce: wine, sugar, reduction.
 
>> DUH.
 
> I bet it doesn't just taste too sweet, but awful all around.
 
That may be. But we don't know that because that is not what OP stated.
And instead of pouring down the drain, why not find out?
 
Once again, DUH.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 28 07:35AM +1000

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 14:23:10 -0700, Taxed and Spent
 
>That may be. But we don't know that because that is not what OP stated.
> And instead of pouring down the drain, why not find out?
 
>Once again, DUH.
 
The OP wrote:
"a super cheap bottle of a red blend, less than $5 regular price, just
to try. It was insanely sweet"
 
That, dear coca cola drinker, is going to taste like shit on every
level.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 27 02:35PM -0700

In fact, I lost several LBS since I became Vegetarian!
 
John Kuthe, Climatye Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
lenona321@yahoo.com: Jul 27 02:27PM -0700

There's a GWTW cookbook, too, but when I looked through it, it didn't seem to have the more expensive New Orleans dishes, like doves in wine.
 
 
 
Lenona.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 27 04:00PM -0400

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:02:58 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>because y*o*u don't like hash browns is no need to disparage what someone
>else likes. Hash browns do get crispier as they cook than home fries or
>cubed potatoes.
 
Hash browns are plain shredded potatoes fried. Home fries contain
diced potatoes along with an assortment of many other ingredients... I
find home fries much tastier. To me hash browns are just French Fries
in a different format. I never said I don't like hash browns, I like
home fries better. Actually I much, MUCH prefer Latkes... and a
zillion times better is potato kugel. And best of all are mickies...
where's my no-legs friend? I don't like mashed, mashed potatoes are
compost... other than mashed my least favorite are French fries, fast
food filler... what do the Frogs know from potatoes, NOTHING!
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