Monday, July 27, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 14 updates in 4 topics

Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 27 02:52PM -0400

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:49:11 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>> seem big.
 
>You should see the heat pump sitting next to my house for the addition I
>had built onto the back of my house if you think those are big.
 
Those look like like overkill for such a small house... probably very
poorly insulated and all those moocher tenants are wasteful... opening
windows and doors constantly and don't draw the blinds to keep the sun
out.
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jul 27 01:01PM -0600

On 2020-07-27 11:41 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> https://i.postimg.cc/52LcHLhn/7-27-2020-Copper-Gutters-4.jpg
 
>> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
 
> Wow, that copper looks very nice.  And expensive.
 
And stupid on a house of that value. There is a house a few blocks from
me that has copper gutters, but then it is worth over 3 million bucks.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 27 12:04PM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 2:44:31 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> a radiator in each room and a central thermostat with timer in the
> living room. Warm water runs through the radiators and the pipes that
> connect them.
 
It varies quite a bit. The most common arrangement in my area is gas-fired
forced-air heat that pushes warm air through ductwork to each room. It
makes for fairly dry air in the winter. Many people add a humidifier that
adds moisture to the air before it's circulated through the house.
 
The summer air-conditioning is an aluminum coil filled with coolant, placed atop
the air handler in the furnace. A circuit of piping carries the coolant to an
exterior compressor that exhausts the heat exchanged to the coolant on its trip
through the pipe. The coolant then circulates back to the aluminum coil where
air blowing across it is pushed to each room.
 
This cooling system is fairly easy to retrofit into a house that already had
forced-air heat.

Some people don't like all that moving air. I enjoy it, and the sound of
the blower in the furnace is pleasant white noise.
 
In other areas, the most common forms of heating and cooling are different.
 
Cindy Hamilton
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 27 12:07PM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 1:44:31 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> a radiator in each room and a central thermostat with timer in the
> living room. Warm water runs through the radiators and the pipes that
> connect them.
 
That is a steam generated heat. What I have in the original part of the
house is natural gas heat provided by a split unit. The central furnace
is in the basement, actually suspended from the floor joists. There is one
thermostat that can be set to the desired temperature I want the house to
be. When the temperature falls below what I have set the gas will come on,
and the warm out is forced through the vents in the floor into each room.
Depending how well or lack of insulation in a house will depend on how many
time the furnace will kick on.
 
The a/c part of this unit sits outside on a concrete pad. In the summer
I set it, like the heat, what temperature I want the house to maintain.
Not only does this cool the house it will also draw out the humidity from
the inside air making it much more comfortable.
 
> We have a fireplace and an airco. The airco works well, but dehydrates
> everything. Us and the cats. Is that like your heat pump? Gas central
> heat sounds good.
 
No fireplace here. But in the wintertime, the air is naturally less humid
but the gas heat can be a bit drying. My water heater is also gas-powered
and one thing about that is IF you run out of hot water it recovers VERY
quickly. Kitchen range is also natural gas and I certainly appreciated
that when the tornado roared through here back the first of March. No
baking but I was able to use the burners for cooking. The electronic
ignition on the stove didn't work but that's one reason I keep those
long 'barbecue' lighters on hand.
 
https://i.postimg.cc/RZ8ycjmR/Lighter.png
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 27 12:24PM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 1:52:45 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> poorly insulated and all those moocher tenants are wasteful... opening
> windows and doors constantly and don't draw the blinds to keep the sun
> out.
 
Welch Heating and Cooling in STL suggested them, and they work WONDERFULLY!
 
Keeps the WHOLE HOUSE at 76F at ANY heat outside! Not like the terribly undersized A/C units Dr Luo and Chinese moneyed interest did when I moved in in 2016. Those poor cheap units barely kept things below 80F And ran CONSTANTLY to do it too!
 
These are much cheaper to operate, being properly sized.
 
John Kuthe...
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 28 05:39AM +1000

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 12:04:17 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>forced-air heat that pushes warm air through ductwork to each room. It
>makes for fairly dry air in the winter. Many people add a humidifier that
>adds moisture to the air before it's circulated through the house.
 
That sounds like the Dutch system, although they're switching from gas
to electricity, for sustainability.
 
>forced-air heat.
 
>Some people don't like all that moving air. I enjoy it, and the sound of
>the blower in the furnace is pleasant white noise.
 
I don't mind the sound, just the dryness. Our cats' fur's splitting on
their backs and they're walking around with dingleberries. Actually, I
should check the one I have on my lap right now.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 28 05:43AM +1000

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 12:07:44 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>and the warm out is forced through the vents in the floor into each room.
>Depending how well or lack of insulation in a house will depend on how many
>time the furnace will kick on.
 
Sounds like what I was always used to, except the heat comes through
the floor.
 
>I set it, like the heat, what temperature I want the house to maintain.
>Not only does this cool the house it will also draw out the humidity from
>the inside air making it much more comfortable.
 
It gets humid here too in spring/summer autumn. Just the winters are
dry.
 
>ignition on the stove didn't work but that's one reason I keep those
>long 'barbecue' lighters on hand.
 
>https://i.postimg.cc/RZ8ycjmR/Lighter.png
 
We got rid of gas cooking. I hated horsing around with those big gas
bottles. They were always empty after dark and hard to attach
properly.
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 28 05:44AM +1000

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:51:36 -0700 (PDT), GM
>> it does a marvelous job as well. I do prefer the gas unit over the heat
>> pump though.
 
>America is the land where former luxuries are affordable for most everyone...this case in point being HVAC...in the past was automobiles, appliances, plumbing, etc....
 
Yeah, in Europe people can't afford those things. The majority sleep
under bridges and eat frogs that they catch.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 27 12:54PM -0700

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:41:13 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > https://i.postimg.cc/52LcHLhn/7-27-2020-Copper-Gutters-4.jpg
 
> > John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
 
> Wow, that copper looks very nice. And expensive.
 
Hell YES expensive! $113,671 worth of expensive! Copper and Stainless Steel nails, bronze caulking although I told them since all they had was white that that would be fine too! Any caulk is better than NO caulk! :-)
 
John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jul 27 01:02PM -0600

On 2020-07-27 7:36 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> drink.  I'm not sure this cheap "insanely sweet" red wine would make a
> good marinade.
 
> Jill
The only thing to do with cheap, sweet, red wine is to pour it down the
sink!
Bruce <bruce@null.null>: Jul 28 05:46AM +1000


>> Jill
>The only thing to do with cheap, sweet, red wine is to pour it down the
>sink!
 
That makes more sense than "Eeeew, this tastes bad. Let's marinate
some meat in it".
Taxed and Spent <nospamplease@nonospam.com>: Jul 27 12:52PM -0700

> I bought a super cheap bottle of a red blend, less than $5 regular price, just to try. It was insanely sweet, like KoolAid with double the sugar. I added a bit of lemon juice until I got to something drinkable. Still not great but I never expected much from a $5 bottle.
 
Never mind all the rubbish replies you got.
 
Make a wine reduction dessert sauce.
 
You will use less sugar than is normally called for, so wing it.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 27 03:31PM -0400

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:55:48 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
 
>Fall and hit your head?
 
>Grits and cream of rice are entirely two different foods and yes, they are
>distinguishable from each other unless you've fallen and hit your head.
 
I've cooked and eaten both, there's no real difference except how one
seasons or adds ingredients to them. They are both an equally starchy
hot cereal with very equal texture... neither is very nutritious or
even contains much fiber. I think the best way to eat either is to
place into a pan and set in the fridge to congeal over night, then cut
into squares and fried... both are poor peoples vittles, both equally
filling for cheap.
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Jul 27 01:15PM -0600

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:38:32 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
 
>If you'd have cut the crusts off that bread you could have shown up at any
>wedding with those sandwiches and catered the affair.
 
>:o))
 
I think of that for my next employment LOL
Janet US
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