Sunday, January 17, 2021

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 17 10:57AM -0500

On 2021-01-17 8:23 a.m., Gary wrote:
 
> I've noticed that many good chefs have no problem using commercial ketchup.
 
> Recently heard Bobby Flay say, "It's a good ingredient to use. No need
> to "reinvent the wheel."
 
I did not rant about ketchup. It's just that I don't use it much. I
don't use it on many of the things that other people do, like hot dogs,
hamburgers and fries. There is also the problem of ketchup being so
bland these days. It is weak and runny.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 17 11:24AM -0500

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 10:57:07 -0500, Dave Smith
>don't use it on many of the things that other people do, like hot dogs,
>hamburgers and fries. There is also the problem of ketchup being so
>bland these days. It is weak and runny.
 
We very rarely eat fries. I don't consider that any of those fast
food joints have edible fries, they're all extruded and frozen...
blech! Occasionally I'll prepare fries from whole spuds, large ripple
cuts... but then I'll toss them with oil in a roasting pan and pop
them into a hot oven.
 
I'll put ketchup on a burger but on meat loaf I like horse radish,
sometimes mixed with ketchup.

I use far more mustard (Guldens) than ketchup. The only way to
prepare good meat loaf is with meat you grind yourself, mystery meat
makes lousy eating no matter how it's used... it's very difficult for
me to accept that proclaimed Foodies ever eat Mystery meat.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 17 08:23AM -0500

Graham wrote:
> I have a conventional, hand-craked one and wish I had a 3rd hand to help
> catch the rolled out dough.
 
I agree. One person to feed in the dough and crank it. The other person
to catch it.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 17 10:58AM -0500

On 1/16/2021 4:14 PM, songbird wrote:
 
> the meat grinder i'd consider useful as our ancient hand
> crank one is really getting decrepit - but it does still
> work it just doesn't look very pretty.
 
Hey, as long as it still works and you keep it clean, no worries how it
looks.
 
I'll probably never buy one as I don't eat much meat and even less often
ground meat.
 
The occasional ground from the grocery store is fine with me.
 
Speaking of that.... 80% lean ground chuck this week at my grocery store
for %2.99/lb.
(for Carol, that's at Harris Teeter)
 
I might buy some tomorrow or Tuesday and make a 3 lb meatloaf. YUM
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jan 17 09:03AM -0700

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 08:21:28 -0500, Gary wrote:
 
 
> Probably because it didn't work so good.
> What an odd appliance.
 
> I would just use the butter and buy fresh cream as needed.
 
It was probably invented when cream wasn't readily availble in shops.
Remember that the supermarkets that we are so used to weren't abundant
until the 60s, at least in the UK.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 17 11:19AM -0500

On 1/17/2021 8:42 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> many years. I wonder why I still keep it:))
 
> Because somewhere in your subconscious, you remember just how tasty
> home-made pasta is.
 
So much better when fresh made. I don't have a machine now but I do make
egg noodles from scratch occasionally. I roll them out and use a pizza
wheel to cut them.
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jan 17 08:50AM -0500

S Viemeister wrote:
 
> They are amazingly big! Someday, I'd love to try them.
> I've always preferred to grow the edible pods - traditional peas seem
> such a waste, although their pods make good compost...
 
they're called Green Beauty, the pods are thin, but crunchy
and juicy even when the seeds get larger, the plants can grow
6-8ft tall. you can see in the background some of the other
pods and how thin they are, but they are good eats, i was
having a hard time not eating them all when they showed up on
the plants. the other nice things about them was that they
were about 60 days and very productive in our heavy clay
soils so i was very happy with them. really, just to have
any snow pea work for me was great.
 
 
songbird
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 17 06:50AM -0800

On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 10:35:25 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> I'm not all that fond of peas. A few in something are fine. A whole serving
> is just too much. Thus, it's not a big sacrifice to refrain from cooking with
> them.
 
When I was a kid, I used to eat Campbell's Beef with Barley soup, and I
always picked out every pea before heating it. I pick the peas out of
Mexican rice too.
 
--Bryan
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 17 07:27AM -0800


> When I was a kid, I used to eat Campbell's Beef with Barley soup, and I
> always picked out every pea before heating it. I pick the peas out of
> Mexican rice too.
 
I hated peas when I was a child, mainly because they were always served
overcooked. I might pick them out of Campbell's soup if I ate it. (I don't
put them in my homemade soups.)
 
When we get peas in the rice at Indian restaurants my husband picks them
out and gives them to me. Same with mushrooms, which he also hates.
 
Cindy Hamilton
S Viemeister <firstname@lastname.oc.ku>: Jan 17 03:34PM

On 17/01/2021 13:50, songbird wrote:
> were about 60 days and very productive in our heavy clay
> soils so i was very happy with them. really, just to have
> any snow pea work for me was great.
 
I've saved this post, for future use. Thank you.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 17 11:12AM -0500

dsi1 wrote:
> My suggestion is that you make your famous Karo pecan pie with
> or without a homemade crust but use Spam cubes instead of pecans.
 
A pecan pie using spam cubes instead of pecans? arrrgh
Was that a Twilight Zone episode that I've missed? ;)
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jan 17 09:12AM -0700

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 09:35:18 +0000, S Viemeister wrote:
 
 
> They are amazingly big! Someday, I'd love to try them.
> I've always preferred to grow the edible pods - traditional peas seem
> such a waste, although their pods make good compost...
 
When I was a teen, a local farmer made silage from pea plants (presumably
the peas went to Birds-Eye). The smell was unbelievable when a cart-load of
that stuff was driven through the village.
songbird <songbird@anthive.com>: Jan 17 10:38AM -0500

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...
> Some omnivores might eat meat replacements because they think the
> replacements are more healthful than beef.
 
after reading the ingredients of most popular ones i'd say
they're not all that much healthier, but in terms of impact
on the environment they might be better. we'll see what
happens. me, i like beans, so that is a good enough meat
replacement for my purposes and i'm glad i can grow most of
the beans we eat here at home in the gardens so i know those
are better for the environment.
 
 
songbird
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 17 10:48AM -0500

On 2021-01-17 5:17 a.m., Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> sadistic Draculas that they are?
 
> And I don't know why a vegetarian would want a simulation of eating
> killed animals. That's 100% admitting that meat is enjoyable.
 
|One of my beefs about vegetarians is their use of faux meats. I have
had vegetarians try to foist things like veggie dogs and veggie burgers
on me and telling me they taste just like meat. They don't taste as much
like meat as meat does.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 17 11:07AM -0500

Sqwertz wrote:
> https://i.postimg.cc/yNFvDcbp/Backup-Burger-Forgot-Burger.jpg
 
That spread looks very tasty to me, regardless of real or fake meat
Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jan 17 09:09AM -0700

On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 10:48:43 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:
 
> had vegetarians try to foist things like veggie dogs and veggie burgers
> on me and telling me they taste just like meat. They don't taste as much
> like meat as meat does.
 
Yet I would wager that veggies decry the consumption of processed foods.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 17 11:03AM -0500

On 1/16/2021 8:09 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> Greg
 
> BullSHIT!
 
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
 
Those old GEICO Pinocchio commercials were funny. :)
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 17 06:43AM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 7:20:34 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
 
> > 10,000+ hours to master. I'm sure that I earned my Master's degree years ago.
> I ran the math. Roughly twice a day every single day for 50 years.
> Not counting sex with women or John (if any).
 
Some days zero. Others 14. Most days something in between.
 
> Did your wife cut you off early in the marriage?
 
Yours cut you off for good. You never got back on the horse. I think that makes
you a loser.
 
> Do you wear a super hero costume? lol
 
Not anymore. Some thing do lessen with agedness.
 
Gary
 
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 17 06:46AM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 7:21:16 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> > maybe even my phD in masturbation!
> New Mike Judge movie - coming soon to a theatre near you:
> "Beavis and Butthead: The Senior Years"
 
How sad for you, Gary, to have a penis that dangles uselessly.
Your life seems only marginally worth living.
 
--Bryan
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Jan 17 02:03PM

In article <ru1fgd$or3$1@dont-email.me>, g.majors@att.net says...
 
> Bryan Simmons wrote:
 
<usual crap>

> wow. You sound pretty messed up, dude.
 
You're a very slow learner, Gary
 
Janet UK
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 17 06:25AM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 7:53:24 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
> > it to him, but I hope it raises his blood pressure enough to give him an aneurism.
 
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/15522299@N08/50844592337/in/dateposted-public/
> You are one very odd (and potentially dangerous) duck, Bryan.
 
What's dangerous? It's a postcard. Odd duck? Sure.
 
> First you're out knocking on doors for political reasons. Just as
> annoying or more than the Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses.
 
Gary, I didn't knock on his door. I was only knocking on doors on the list
of folks who had previously expressed a preference for Sanders. It's called
Get Out the Vote.
 
> Second, you still have a grudge with someone that didn't agree with your
> politics and coming to convince him to switch his vote after 4 1/2 years
> ago ???
 
The guy was an asshole. I saw his house and remembered the conversation.
I'm not now, and never did try "to convince him to switch his vote." It's pricks
with his mindset who are trying to destroy democracy while wrapping
themselves in the flag.
 
> Tuesday, you'll send him that picture? Four and a half years later?
 
That's part of the humor
 
> wow. You sound pretty messed up, dude.
 
You are messed up. You're a pathetic old man who never gets laid because
you wouldn't want anyone who'd have you. Almost like, "I don't care to
belong to any club that will have me as a member."
 
--Bryan
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 17 06:26AM -0800

On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 8:03:37 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
 
> <usual crap>
> > wow. You sound pretty messed up, dude.
> You're a very slow learner, Gary
 
Hey now, you shouldn't insult Gary. You right-wingers need to stick together
 
--Bryan
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Jan 17 02:02PM

In article <ru1dh7$bts$1@dont-email.me>, g.majors@att.net says...
 
> > Some NymShifter is COPYING being me!
 
> I am shocked. That was "Master Bruce."
> Never expected that from him.
 
You're a slow learner, Gary
 
 
Janet UK
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 17 09:07AM -0500

On 1/17/2021 9:02 AM, Janet wrote:
>> Never expected that from him.
 
> You're a slow learner, Gary
 
> Janet UK
 
lol
Do you *ever* have any nice moments or are you always just so bitter?
Janet <nobody@home.org>: Jan 17 02:01PM

In article <ru1dsb$bts$10@dont-email.me>, g.majors@att.net says...
 
> Most of us have aioe killfiled?
 
Yes. You're a slow learner, Gary.
 
Janet UK
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