Sunday, January 9, 2022

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 13 topics

Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 09 08:13AM -0500

Michael Trew wrote:> I'd be here almost > 3 hours a day if I read all
messages, and responded to many.
 
That's my problem, more like 4 hours a day to read all and respond to
some. Today's new batch was 450 posts. I just finished reading, now will
respond to a few more.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 09 05:40AM -0800

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 8:12:26 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> That's my problem, more like 4 hours a day to read all and respond to
> some. Today's new batch was 450 posts. I just finished reading, now will
> respond to a few more.
 
I don't read every single word in every single post. It's easy to tell when
Sheldon's on a rant, read the first couple of sentences and skip over the
Munchausen-esque anecdotes.
 
Cindy Hamilton
John Kuthe <jwk6680@bjc.org>: Jan 09 05:36AM -0800

And I'm gonna have a great DAY OFF! No Nordictracking, plenty of food in my house, a new batch of Rice and Sweet and Hot Beans, fruit, veggies and great things to eat!
 
And enough Prostaglandin and Vegetable Oil to make masturbation really great! And LOTS of Pornhub Bookmarks! Yes including my fave Angel Smalls and other great Pornhub videos!
 
 
John Kuthe...
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jan 09 04:25AM -0800

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> > or event, but many. BTW, I am not trying to convince you of anything.
> > Janet US
 
> I wouldn't cite Jurassic Park as a source for anything but entertainment.
 
 
<chuckle>
 
 
> "Stuff happens" directly contradicts your previous position that "there
> is a response to balance things out".
 
 
All is chaos, there is no "response to balance things out", viz:
 
 
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/dinosaur-extinction.html
 
"What caused the extinction of dinosaurs?
 
Evidence suggests an asteroid impact was the main culprit. Volcanic eruptions
that caused large-scale climate change may also have been involved, together
with more gradual changes to Earth's climate that happened over millions of years...
 
....
 
https://theconversation.com/how-the-moon-formed-new-research-133204
 
How the moon formed – new research
 
How the Earth got its moon is a long debated question. The giant impact theory – which
states that the Moon formed from the a collision between the early Earth and a rocky body
called Theia – has become the front runner among the explanations. But the details around
how this happened are blurry and there are many observations that scientists are
still struggling to explain.
 
Now a new study, published in Nature Geoscience, has shed light on what actually happened
by solving one of the biggest mysteries surrounding the crash – why the Moon ended up
being nearly identical to Earth, rather than Theia, assuming she existed.
 
According to the giant impact theory, Theia was a body roughly the size of Mars or
smaller – half the diameter of Earth. It smashed into the developing Earth 4.5 billion
years ago. This collision produced enough heat to create magma oceans and
ejected a lot of debris into orbit around the Earth, which subsequently coalesced
into the Moon...."
 
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Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 09 07:42AM -0500

On 1/8/2022 7:11 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> It might be cheaper to buy your wine at walmart. When I go there, I
> always wear a disguise so nobody knows I shopped at walmart. You could
> try this.
 
That's funny but think about it...no need to hide your identity when
shopping at walmart. Anyone that sees you is *also* shopping at walmart.
 
Personally, I like Walmart. I just rarely go there.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 09 08:08AM -0500

On 1/8/2022 11:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> cans back and talked to the owner. I explained what had happened and
> blamed it on the way they packaged the product citing the flimsy
> cardboard flat. She gave me a dozen cans.... 3 four packs.
 
That same thing happened to your love, Julie once. Only case of soda,
not beer.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 09 08:32AM -0500

On 1/8/2022 6:42 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> days...
 
> I wonder what the fine for burning a tire in canada is, these days ...
> probably a capital offense.
 
Here is a very funny prank -
https://www.webcenterfairbanks.com/content/news/april-1-1974-sitka-wakes-up-to-a-legendary-prank-569304551.html
 
Good one! :)
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 09 08:28AM -0500

On 1/8/2022 6:21 PM, Thomas Joseph wrote:
 
>> It is fascinating to see how gas prices have tended to revert to the $2.86 mean for the overall
>> period (1918-2020), despite significant fluctuations and increases in taxes, at least in some states..."
 
> I had an uncle who told me back in the late 70s during the gas crisis when prices were sky high that they could go to $10 a gallon and it would still be cheap. I know what he meant. Nobody told anyone they had to give in working a hundred miles from home. Today's luxury is tomorrow's necessity. I guess throughout history. Not long ago you could have heard someone say with amazement, "I can take a plane tonight and be in Miami by 8 tomorrow morning." Now it's the same except "I can" is replaced by "I have to" - be in Miami by 8 tomorrow morning.
 
These days, you can fly to any destination and be stranded in some
airport for days as many flights have been cancelled due to weather or
some other reason.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 09 07:08AM -0500

On 1/8/2022 6:27 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> gives it a bit of kick and also helps keep it moist.  The shredded
> cheese adds a bit more interest. :)
 
> Jill
 
You haven't promoted yourself as a very good cook with all that above.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 09 07:15AM -0500

On 1/8/2022 6:54 PM, bruce bowser wrote:
>> literally baked it in a bread loaf pan, so it was swimming in grease yet
>> somehow always managed to be very dry.
 
> Following recipes exactly might lead to that result. They perfected it to produce very little grease.
 
That would be "lean ground beef"... no grease leftover and basically
tasteless.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 09 04:59AM -0800


> Of course, the purists can make their own cocktail sauce by combining
> ketchup with prepared horseradish (not horseradish sauce).
 
Because using bottle ketchup as an ingredient becomes "pure"
if you further adulterate the ketchup before adding it.
https://www.pinterest.com/rowanvamp0/vintage-recipe-magazine-ads/
 
--Bryan
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jan 09 08:24AM -0500

On 1/9/2022 7:15 AM, Gary wrote:
>> it to produce very little grease.
 
> That would be "lean ground beef"... no grease leftover and basically
> tasteless.
 
LOL If that's the result I was after I'd use my mom's "recipe". ;)
 
Jill
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 09 08:23AM -0500

On 1/8/2022 9:34 AM, jmcquown wrote:
 
>> I'm just curious, Jill. How did you know that wasn't me?
 
> I'm not telling. :)
 
> Jill
 
Oh please do. I am curious. You must be smarter than the average bear.
Not just anyone can decipher full headers properly.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 09 06:43AM -0500

On 1/8/2022 5:52 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> different.  Then again, I never see those labels on the meat at Publix.
>  Maybe I'm just not shopping on the right days but I have never seen
> the euphemistic "used meat" markdown bins there, either.
 
The "used meat" is a RFC joke. It's not used but it's almost out of
date. You have to shop early in the day to find those as they are
grabbed early.
 
If you do buy one, be sure to cook it the same day. Don't even wait
until the next day.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 09 07:14AM -0500

On 1/8/2022 6:48 PM, jmcquown wrote:
 
> It looked delicious!  I'd have cut and cooked the strip, then later
> cooked the rib portion.  But hey, I don't have a large appetite.
 
> Jill
 
1 cup of bird seed, simmered in commercial vegetable broth seems more
your style. ;-o
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 09 07:14AM -0500

On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 14:32:56 -0800 (PST), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
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jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jan 09 08:22AM -0500

On 1/9/2022 7:14 AM, Gary wrote:
 
>> Jill
 
> 1 cup of bird seed, simmered in commercial vegetable broth seems more
> your style.  ;-o
 
Silly, you know I love a good steak, cooked to no more than medium-rare. :)
 
Jill
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Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com>: Jan 09 05:18AM -0800

> >did the same, and I'm not aware of anyone being hospitalized from it.
> >Their are regular water quality checks. Perhaps your well water isn't
> >up to snuff, but we have no issue here.
 
We have good tap water here.
https://www.waterworld.com/drinking-water/potable-water-quality/article/16207587/four-st-louis-wtps-win-rare-award-for-exceptional-potable-water-quality
 
--Bryan
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 09 08:19AM -0500


> Sorry to disappoint you asshole, but I can do a lot of the maintenance
> around here myself. Whereas you living in an apartment wouldn't know
> where to begin with everyday maintenance of a home.
 
heh heh Why would I need to as I pay for all the services anyway.
Anything goes wrong here, they send someone right away. I can go surfing
while others cut my grass each week.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: Jan 09 08:08AM -0500

On 1/8/2022 7:17 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> more. The lowest scoundrel should not be denied a job that
> they are qualified for.
 
> --Bryan
 
Thank you, Bryan.
 
Jill
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 09 08:00AM -0500

On 1/8/2022 10:17 PM, Alex wrote:
 
>> Is that safe???
 
> Only if they are done having children.
 
Bonus: Get down on the floor and put the glowing wire right next to your
left cheek. Then hold your cell phone next to your right cheek and snap
a picture. Free dental x-ray. Show it to your dentist next time you go
in for x-ray and cleaning. Save money. :)
Lucretia Borgia <lucretiaborgia@fl.it>: Jan 09 08:43AM -0400


>I watched a PBS documentary recently of the history of mince pies.
>Hundreds of years ago, they were all meat and savory. Modern mince pies
>are more fruity and more like dessert pies.
 
This is what I use, I confess I often vary the measurements etc.
 
1 lb Cooking Apples (Granny Smith) peeled, cored and chopped
8 oz Shredded Suet
12 oz Raisins
8 oz. Sultanas (golden raisins)
8 oz Currants
8 oz whole mixed peel, chopped
12 oz Soft brown sugar
Grated rind and juice of 2 oranges
Grated rind and juice of 2 lemons
2 oz. whole almonds cut into slivers (I leave this out)
4 tsps. mixed spice
1/2 tsp powdered cinnamon
1/2 nutmeg, grated
6 tablespoons brandy
 
Mix all the ingredients, except for the brandy, together in a large
bowl very thoroughly. Cover with a cloth and leave for at least 12
hours.
 
Place the mincemeat, loosely covered with foil in a cool oven, 225
deg, for three hours. This process slowly melts the suet which coats
the rest of the ingredients and prevents fermentation taking place if
too much juice seeps from the apples during storage. Then allow it
to get quite cold, stir in the brandy and spoon into clean, dry jars.
Cover and seal.
 
 
I vary it somewhat. Our fruit is terribly dry so I start by soaking
the fruit in brandy, whisky, rum, sherry whatever is to hand, for 24
hours. Then I do it her way and add a bit more booze in the jars!
Often add more just before I use it too. What the hell, its
Christmas!
GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jan 09 04:37AM -0800

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 5:11:18 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> > in a pinch. I used a can to make home made biscuits and the rest went
> > into the milk gravy - I didn't have any fresh milk. Came out fine.
> Evaporated milk is important when making Chinese custard pie/egg tarts - well, it is for me anyway.
 
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forms_of_Things_Unknown
 
"The Forms of Things Unknown" is an episode of the original The Outer Limits television
show. It first aired on May 4, 1964, and was the final episode of the first season.
 
Plot:
 
The plot involves two women who kill a blackmailer. Driving through the countryside with
the body in the trunk, looking for a good place to bury him, they take refuge from a storm
in a house containing a blind man and a strange young inventor who is experimenting with
time. Unlike the traditional "time travel" devices, this one is intended to "tilt the cycles of
time" and bring the dead back to life...which is what happens to the murdered blackmailer.
 
Technique
The episode is considered an unusual one, even for The Outer Limits. More than almost any
other, it is filled with weird camera angles, atmospheric photography, gothic sets, creepy
music (much of which surfaced later in the TV series The Invaders), and offbeat writing
and performances, giving the episode something of an "art house movie" feel.
 
 
Cast
Vera Miles – as Kassia Paine
Sir Cedric Hardwicke – as Colas
Scott Marlowe – as André
David McCallum – as Tone Hobart
Barbara Rush – as Leonora Edmond
 
This episode was the final acting role of Sir Cedric Hardwicke. He died on August 6, 1964, a
few months after this episode aired.
 
The story begins in the French countryside, where a car can be seen driving at high speed. The
driver, Andre Pavan a wealthy playboy, is kissing his girlfriend Kassia Paine while Kassia's friend
Leonora Edmond sits in the back seat.
 
Andre decides to stop at a small lake for a swim, stripping down to his swim trunks. He orders
the women to make him a drink, and they do so – but lace the cocktail shaker with a leaf from
the deadly Thanatos plant. Andre, with jovial cruelty, makes the women serve his drink while
he stands in the water, ruining their "fine stilletto heels" as he puts it. He drinks a toast to
blackmailing Leonora's father in London, and dies immediately, but with a strange smile on his face.
 
The women load Andre's corpse and clothing into the trunk of the car and drive in search
of a place to bury it. Leonora is unnerved by the whole thing, and becomes more nervous
after they encounter a funeral procession. When night falls and a thunderstorm starts, Leonora's
nerves are on edge. Kassia tries to calm her, but then the trunk comes open. They stop the
car to check on Andre, who hasn't moved. But a lightning flash makes it seem to Leonora
as though he had blinked, and she runs off, frightened. Kassia catches up to her and tries
again to calm her, but both women see a shadowy figure standing nearby. This is too much
for Leonora, who runs to a nearby house. A blind man, Monsieur Colas, answers the door
and lets the women in from the storm. Colas explains that "Mr. Hobart" is not at home, but
will return soon..."
 
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GM <gregorymorrowchicago07@gmail.com>: Jan 09 04:13AM -0800

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:56:35 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
 
> > > Cindy Hamilton
 
> > --Bryan
> I love those things. They're great for introducing kids to supercooled liquids and phase change reactions. I had one as a kid - hours of fun!
 
 
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/vintage-ads-and-brochures/vintage-ads-1965-and-1966-corvette-when-copywriters-were-real-writers/
 
Vintage Ads: 1965 and 1966 Corvette – When Copywriters Were Real Writers
 
BY PAUL NIEDERMEYER – POSTED ON JANUARY 9, 2022
 
I thought at first that these Corvette ads were written when David E. Davis was doing them at
Campbell-Ewing, but he didn't arrive there until 1967 when he got fired from Car and Driver for
one of his over-the-top flame jobs, this time on a Blaupunkt radio in a BMW 2002, which
according to him "could not pick up a Manhattan station from the other side of the George
Washington Bridge."
 
An even greater writer was put in some time at Campbell-Ewing writing Corvette ads: Leonard
Elmore. But who knows; there were others too.
 
They were a wee bit over my twelve year old head at the time, but I knew they were good, and
largely in a class of their own.
 
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