Thursday, May 24, 2018

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 7 topics

jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 24 02:04PM -0400


> I hope you've got one of those spatter screens to go on top of your
> pan. That's the only thing I hate about frying some things; that
> grease can pop and land everywhere.
 
I do have a couple of spatter screens but they're not really necessary.
I slash the Italian sausages crosswise so the fat leaches out into the
grill pan. Also so they don't curl up when cooking. I don't cook them
on high heat, cook them low and slow. There's not much spatter.
 
Jill
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 24 03:57PM -0400

On 2018-05-24 2:04 PM, jmcquown wrote:
 
> I slash the Italian sausages crosswise so the fat leaches out into the
> grill pan.  Also so they don't curl up when cooking.  I don't cook them
> on high heat, cook them low and slow.  There's not much spatter.
 
I don't slash them. I just poke a bunch of holes in them to let the fat out.
"l not -l" <lallin@cujo.com>: May 24 06:16PM

On 24-May-2018, "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>
wrote:
 
> things but it couldn't save much time. I've noticed they also have
> packages of chicken breasts with some sort of seasoning on them but
> once again you have to actually cook those once you get home.
 
The three regional chains that serve my area (STL suburb) have all offered
"meal kits" for some time. The one that caters to the lower end of
middle-class, has the meal kits just inside the entrance; it's a modest size
cooler that you see before anything else in the store and can easily be
grabbed and head straight to checkout. A the store that caters to the
affluent has the wine counter first upon entry, then a huge deli area that
includes all manner of "meal kits", making it easy for soccer moms to grab
wine with their "meal kits". The largest of the regional chains caters to
the middle-class masses; the first thing you see when walking in is a cooler
stoked with pre-cut-and-peeled fruit and vegetables. you then have to walk
through the bakery and deli before finding "meal kits" in the meat
department.
 
I find it interesting how the chains differ in their socio-economic market
segmentation. It is often reflected in their weekly ad pages as well. The
low-end store has a page of beer and liquor ads, heavy on the beer. The
upper-end store often has a full, or nearly so, page of wine ads and the
mid-tier chain often has about a half-page covering the alcohol spectrum.
 
--
Change cujo to juno to make a valid email address.
 
I'm easy to get along with when things go my way.
Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost>: May 24 01:39PM -0500

On Thu, 24 May 2018 12:32:01 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
 
>> the people reading this
 
> Well, ya know. First time in 94 years. That we know of.
 
> I definitely need to know how to react if I encounter a 100 lb. wild cat.
 
That '94 years' was just for Washington State. 10 people have been
eaten by cougars in North America in the last 17 years. Runners,
bikers, hikers, a kid playing on the school playground, and another
riding a on a tricycle at his home.
 
Meat the victims:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_cougar_attacks_in_North_America
 
I like how they listed the latest one as "non-specific". He did
look like he could have been both. Perhaps "transitioning" - not
sure whether he was coming or going a man on the ledge named Sonja.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost>: May 24 02:08PM -0500

On Wed, 23 May 2018 20:33:28 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
 
> with veggies alongside. Then you only need to stop for the beer and
> your dinner is complete. Many laborers stop and fix their lunch and
> stop again and pick up dinner. Nice.
 
My grocer has been doing these tray meals for a while. It's a
seasoned meat, chicken, or seafood next to some sort of potato next
to some sort of veggie, in a foil try covered with plastic wrap.
Single serve, just pop them into the oven. Also pot roasts and
whole or half chickens. With veggies and tubers meant for 2-4 people
shrink-wrapped on styrofoam. Along with all the other stuff you
mention. Except we had to give up our fried chicken for that damned
sushi kiosk. Those bitches!
 
Pre-made food is taking over the grocery store.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost>: May 24 02:28PM -0500

On Thu, 24 May 2018 09:23:50 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
 
 
> I'm pretty sure Publix offers the same sort of thing. Ah yes, but this
> is seafood:
 
> http://www.publix.com/products-services/seafood/fresh-seafood-cook-in-bag-dinners
 
Let me clarify... These come exactly like you'd get from a "Home
Chef" service. A meat, a veggie, a starch,a couple cloves of
garlic, a dram bottle of EVOO, 6 mushrooms, as plastic fish of soy
sauce, 2 green onions, etc... All raw and ready to be prepared and
cooked. All the "shopping" has been done and the ingredients you
need have been put into a box.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost>: May 24 02:37PM -0500

On Thu, 24 May 2018 10:09:52 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
 
> guess) after you get the $30 savings if you use a coupon code. Without
> the coupon it figures out to be about $70 for a box of food for four
> people. For one meal. YIKES!
 
And that's for really small portions that barely follow "USDA
guidelines". 3-4 ounces of meat, 4oz of vegetables, 3oz of cooked
pasta, etc... For some people that works for them. But for many it
doesn't. Restaurants could never survive servings portions like
that for $9.95. Not in my area, at least. Restaurnats are much
more expensive in San Francisco and New York due to rent.
 
-sw
Sqwertz <swertz@cluemail.compost>: May 24 02:53PM -0500

On Thu, 24 May 2018 11:50:01 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
 
> On 5/24/2018 11:19 AM, penmart01@aol.com wrote:
 
>> another meal. I don't light my oven for a 2 lb roast.
 
> I don't have to "light" my oven.
 
Sheldon is showing is Jewishness. There are many customs regarding
lighting the oven, anybody just can't "turn it on" any time they
want <gasp>.
 
He can change his last name from Katz to Martin, but he's still 99%
Jewish.
 
-sw
Hank Rogers <nospam@invalid.net>: May 24 02:42PM -0500

Kathy Katz wrote:
>> are a bunch of sickos. However the Janets are a pair of dumbest
>> twats, not a whole brain between both
 
> Were you born a faggot or did you get sucked into it?
 
The latter, and by his brother.
Hank Rogers <nospam@invalid.net>: May 24 02:40PM -0500

>> large city that has a "china town" I could probably experience
>> some real chinese cuisine.
 
> I've been to the Chinatown in NYC often ...
 
*LIAR!*
 
No pic means yoose never ate food in chinatown, and yoose never had a
chinese friend.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 24 01:58PM -0400

On 5/24/2018 1:10 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> community full of busy people like this who want to retain as much
> family time as they can without the intrusion of live in help.
> Janet US
 
They wanted to do as much as they could by hiring a housekeeper and a
nanny? Hands on. Sure. It sounds to me like s very posh lifestyle and
not like the parents want to be much involved with their children.
 
Ordering a meal kit won't make the family be any closer. It's a
marketing image.
 
Jill
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 24 02:06PM -0400

On 5/24/2018 1:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> that requires your kids to be raised by the hired help, you should not
> have them.  Do the have to have that kinds of a lifestyle?  No, it is
> their choice.  They are putting material things ahead of family.
 
That's kind of the way I look at it, Ed. Then again I don't have
children so I'm not allowed to have an opinion. Heh.
 
Jill
"Cheri" <cherig3@newsguy.com>: May 24 11:34AM -0700

"jmcquown" <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:IaDNC.175083$g%2.43665@fx17.iad...
 
> That's kind of the way I look at it, Ed. Then again I don't have children
> so I'm not allowed to have an opinion. Heh.
 
> Jill
 
 
You're allowed to have it, it's just that people with children won't pay
much attention to it. :)
 
Cheri
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: May 24 02:39PM -0400

On 2018-05-24 1:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> that requires your kids to be raised by the hired help, you should not
> have them.  Do the have to have that kinds of a lifestyle?  No, it is
> their choice.  They are putting material things ahead of family.
 
That is the way a lot of wealthy families have been for years. The
father had a high caliber job that involved a lot of long days and
entertainment. The mother was busy with social clubs, activities,
accompanying the father to dinners with business partners or clients.
The kids were left in the care of a nanny.
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: May 24 12:49PM -0600

>that requires your kids to be raised by the hired help, you should not
>have them. Do the have to have that kinds of a lifestyle? No, it is
>their choice. They are putting material things ahead of family.
 
The children are not being raised by others. Don't know where you got
that from. These people have figured out to have an income and not
live in their parent's basement. They are keeping their children safe
and occupied. They aren't latch key kids.
The days of a mother staying home to be with the kids is no longer
possible. I guess they could do food stamps and seasonal employment.
Janet US
Janet <nobody@home.com>: May 24 02:56PM -0400

In article <8u1egdhu2fdb4b6oldshidai87448nrv1f@4ax.com>, JB@nospam.com
says...
> I guess they could do food stamps and seasonal employment.
> Janet US
 
But wouldn't that make them niggers?
 
Janet UK
U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: May 24 01:00PM -0600

On Thu, 24 May 2018 13:58:01 -0400, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
 
 
>Ordering a meal kit won't make the family be any closer. It's a
>marketing image.
 
>Jill
 
Weekly housecleaning help (I know there are women here who have that)
and weekly lawn service (I know there are people here who have that)
and someone to take and pick up the kids from school (that is a common
thing these days, maybe grandma?). If I had used different words than
nanny and housekeeper you would have been able to look around and find
many couples around you (all of RFC) who do the same thing. The
words nanny, housekeeper, lawn care are the words used in my community
but apparently are trigger words for some folks here. Posh lifestyle?
Not hardly.
Janet US
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: May 24 04:03PM -0300

On Thu, 24 May 2018 12:49:30 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>
wrote:
 
>The days of a mother staying home to be with the kids is no longer
>possible. I guess they could do food stamps and seasonal employment.
>Janet US
 
Then of course they would be ingrates who should be sterilised. I
think there are many who would like to be home with the kids,
sometimes the father, sometimes the mother, but one parent needs much
more income than they are likely to get in order to achieve that.
lucretiaborgia@fl.it: May 24 04:13PM -0300

On Thu, 24 May 2018 13:00:05 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>
wrote:
 
>but apparently are trigger words for some folks here. Posh lifestyle?
>Not hardly.
>Janet US
 
Very hard work, we had three small kids when we elected to stay in
Canada and with all the uncertainty that involved my working was part
of the security. We had routines, like kids rotating duties, in order
to get it all done but it sure as hell wasn't easy. When my kids look
back, they laugh about some things but I have never once heard one of
them suggest they were unhappy or felt hard done by. I reckoned that
all said and done, I had Sunday afternoons off per week.
 
I recall one one occasion my son revolted about emptying the
dishwasher, he stupidly claimed it was 'womans work' - baaad idea :)
Actually at work I saw a lovely cartoon, Lucy and Peanuts in the water
and he says 'You don't have one of these' and she lifted her dress and
said 'No, but with one of these I can have all of those I want' - so
that was pinned on the 'fridge :)
dsi1 <dsi100@yahoo.com>: May 24 12:14PM -0700

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 7:53:32 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> that requires your kids to be raised by the hired help, you should not
> have them. Do the have to have that kinds of a lifestyle? No, it is
> their choice. They are putting material things ahead of family.
 
It is a tradition that old folks waggle their finger at the young folks disapprovingly. Luckily, I like to do the opposite of what most folks do. Personally, I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way.
 
Our generation should pay the young folks a little more respect. The boomers are under the illusion that they're still in charge. Tan't so. The reality is that we're at their mercy and kind graces. The large numbers in our generation means it'll be a heavy load our kids and their kids will be carrying. Sooner or later, they're going to go berserk and start exterminating any oldster that isn't producing products or services. They'll waggle their fingers in our faces and yell "leach!" That's the breaks.
"Cheri" <cherig3@newsguy.com>: May 24 12:21PM -0700

"U.S. Janet B." <JB@nospam.com> wrote in message
 
> but apparently are trigger words for some folks here. Posh lifestyle?
> Not hardly.
> Janet US
 
 
I don't have any of those now, but had lawn service for a few years before
dh retired when I could no longer do it. Believe me, if I could have
afforded that stuff when my kids were small, I would have had it.
 
Cheri
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 24 03:23PM -0400

On 5/24/2018 2:56 PM, Janet wrote:
>> Janet US
 
> But wouldn't that make them niggers?
 
> Janet UK
 
Please don't go there.
 
Jill
Hank Rogers <nospam@invalid.net>: May 24 02:36PM -0500

> paint by numbers is about art. And those meal kits are a whole lot
> more expensive than grocery shopping by about double... a lot of young
> folks don't know how to grocery shop either.
 
Popeye, everyone knows yoose is da onliest one here that "cooks".
 
Yoose should put something like that in your sig. It would allow yoose
to type about 30% less, giving yoose much mo' time to cook yoose giant
meals, or to tell everyone yoose fantastic sex stories, or to hunt down
gays.
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid>: May 25 05:25AM +1000


>4) Face the cat but never, ever stare at it. Staring at a cat
> right in the eyes is aggressive behavior.
 
People always say that, but our cats don't agree.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>: May 24 03:17PM -0400

Not tons of fat but easy enough to drain off and clean the pan. These
are about halfway through cooking.
 
https://s7.postimg.cc/uj7in42ij/grill_pan.jpg
 
I mentioned earlier, I'll probably add some of these sausages to tomato
sauce for spaghetti. It's too wet to grill outside. I like this grill
pan a lot. :)
 
Jill
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