Friday, July 10, 2020

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 7 topics

U.S. Janet B. <JB@nospam.com>: Jul 10 10:31AM -0600

Meatloaf. how do you mean you don't like it? Pi-tooie! Spit it
out or just 'I didn't care for that, let's not have it again'? Was it
the texture, seasoning, saucing, what? (no big deal, I'm just
curious) I only ask because there are so many approaches to meatloaf.
Some people religiously follow a recipe, others load it with
vegetables, or put whole hard boiled eggs in there, or season to mimic
certain cuisines. Or drench the top in BBQ sauce, or catsup or?
What is your style?
Janet US
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 10 10:05AM -0700

On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 12:31:25 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> Meatloaf. how do you mean you don't like it? Pi-tooie! Spit it
> out or just 'I didn't care for that, let's not have it again'?
 
The latter, although I've made meatloaf on multiple occasions to see
if it got any better as my tastes matured.
 
> Was it
> the texture, seasoning, saucing, what? (no big deal, I'm just
> curious)
 
The texture is unpleasant. Simultaneously spongy and gritty.
The taste is just overcooked beef plus whatever else is in there.
 
I've had it with ketchup, tomato sauce, and gravy. Gravy was
the closest to palatable. That was at a cafeteria at a
previous workplace.
 
Cindy Hamilton
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jul 10 11:34AM -0600

On 2020-07-10 10:31 a.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> certain cuisines. Or drench the top in BBQ sauce, or catsup or?
> What is your style?
> Janet US
 
Many years ago, I made an economy version of Boeuf en Croƻte/Beef
Wellington. I moulded some regular ground beef into a loaf shape and
roasted it to remove some of the fat and then wrapped it with chopped
mushrooms, thyme etc in puff pastry for a final bake. It was really good!
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 10 10:39AM -0700

On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> certain cuisines. Or drench the top in BBQ sauce, or catsup or?
> What is your style?
> Janet US
 
I like almost all meatloaf except my own. But I don't care for brown
gravy on top of it no matter who makes it. Tomato sauce instead of
ketchup if I have my druthers.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 10 07:26AM -0700

On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 7:58:41 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > On the few times I made meatloaf. We didn't like it.
 
> Interesting. I think you are the first person (2 people)
> that I've ever heard that didn't like meatloaf.
 
My husband and I don't like meatloaf, either. Now your total is
four people.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 10 10:35AM -0400

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> My husband and I don't like meatloaf, either. Now your total is
> four people.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Go figure. Especially in both cases, Husband and wife don't like
it. Perhaps the cook screwed it up.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 10 08:01AM -0700

On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 10:35:21 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
 
> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> Go figure. Especially in both cases, Husband and wife don't like
> it. Perhaps the cook screwed it up.
 
Neither of us has ever liked meatloaf, no matter who cooked it.
 
Really, we were made for each other. (In a lab in New Jersey, that
burned down under mysterious circumstances.)
 
Cindy Hamilton
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jul 10 01:36PM -0400

On 2020-07-10 10:35 a.m., Gary wrote:
 
>> Cindy Hamilton
 
> Go figure. Especially in both cases, Husband and wife don't like
> it. Perhaps the cook screwed it up.
 
Lots of meatloaf is worthy of contempt. Sometimes it is very good. I
learned to order if it is on the menu in a diner.
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 10 10:27AM -0700

https://i.postimg.cc/VLHrWS5j/Starting-on-the-TOP-7-10-2020-day-3.jpg
 
I've been waiting 2+ YEARS for a dry roof and it is coming top pass! :-)
 
John Kuthe...
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jul 10 10:35AM -0700

On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 12:28:03 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
 
> https://i.postimg.cc/VLHrWS5j/Starting-on-the-TOP-7-10-2020-day-3.jpg
 
> I've been waiting 2+ YEARS for a dry roof and it is coming top pass! :-)
 
> John Kuthe...
 
Where did you expect them to start? The basement?
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jul 10 10:21AM -0700

On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 7:00:17 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> get bored with my breakfast.
 
> >Consider this: EVERYTHING inside an egg is exactly sufficient to build one baby chicken!
 
> That can only be intelligent design!
 
Nope! Evolution has evidence!
 
https://www.pbs.org/video/africas-great-civilizations-origins-hour-one/
 
We Homo Sapiens now have EVIDENCE of where we came from, and it's NOT Creation! We have discovered the oldest Homo Sapiens fossils skulls ever! 200,000 years old, in a rift in Subsahara Africa! The ONLY Homo Sapiens skull fossils found ever!
 
And these are objective FACTS! If you want to argue, go argue with the FACTS!
 
In fact, I want to start a Church called The First United Church Of Facts! No spooky scriptures, just the facts!
 
John Kuthe...
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jul 10 11:28AM -0600

On 2020-07-10 6:00 a.m., Bruce wrote:
 
 
>> Consider this: EVERYTHING inside an egg is exactly sufficient to build one baby chicken!
 
> That can only be intelligent design!
 
No!!!! That's the way it evolved!!!
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jul 10 09:07AM -0400

On 2020-07-10 6:02 a.m., S Viemeister wrote:
>> of butterfly.  Possibly the black swallowtail.
 
> Very likely the swallowtail. They are beautiful creatures, so I always
> plant enough parsley to share with them.
 
Swallowtails like Dill too.
bruce2bowser@gmail.com: Jul 10 06:12AM -0700

>On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 5:24:39 PM UTC-5, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
>> If toasted with some kind of oil, grease or butter and then nice cold lettuce and tomato is added? any sandwich is better, I'd say.
 
>Enjoy! Here, you can have my greenery.
 
Certainly! Lettuce and the sesame seeds on the bun are all nutritional.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 10 01:06PM -0400

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 02:38:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>My parsley plants are currently serving as a nursery for some kind
>of butterfly. Possibly the black swallowtail.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
I grow a parsely patch each year, I much prefer curly leaf as it
tastes sweeter than flat leaf. Parsely is an excellent breath
freshner, which is why I believe it's used as a garnish. I usually
eat the parsely garnish, but hesitantly as I always wonder if eateries
wash it... parsely leaves grow close to the ground so always contain
some sand. I swish mine in my water glass and can see the grains of
sand sink to the bottom. That sand won't make you sick, not until you
see your dental bill.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jul 10 01:13PM -0400

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 09:07:38 -0400, Dave Smith
 
>> Very likely the swallowtail. They are beautiful creatures, so I always
>> plant enough parsley to share with them.
 
>Swallowtails like Dill too.
 
I like dill but I don't plant any as dill is extremely invasive...
when their seed pods ripen they suddenly pop open explosively and
seeds get thrown for several feet.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jul 10 09:11AM -0400

On 2020-07-10 7:59 a.m., Gary wrote:
 
> I can understand now why it's so well known and remembered.
> As I know that movies are just a shadow of the real
> books, I'm going to look for this book and read it.
 
It is a great book. I went through a phase about a decade back where I
read a bunch of the classics. Wuthering Heights was the best of the bunch.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jul 10 09:21AM -0400

On 2020-07-10 8:28 a.m., Gary wrote:
 
> I've read many books first, then saw a movie version.
> The movies always cut out many relevant parts. Many
> times, best to read the book first, then watch a movie.
 
Try that with the Cormac McCarthy stories that have been turned into
movies. It is remarkable how closely they stick to the story line of the
books.
 
 
> At least then, you can fill in the gaps that the movie
> doesn't have time to show.
 
Sometimes you have to pay attention to the background. There is a
chapter in Moby Dick where Melville describes how they use the ship's
mast to hoist whale carcasses. They shift ballast to one side so the
boat will cant to the opposite side. They attack lines to the whale and
then shift the weight back to the other side and as the mast straightens
it yanks the carcass up out of the water. It is a chapter in the book.
In the movie there is a scene with Captain Ahab speaking in the
foreground and the whale hoisting happens in the background, and happens
much faster than the slow process described in the book.
 
 
 
> One example: Stephen King's, "The Shining."
> It was a very scary book but the movie with
> Jack Nicolson was almost a comedy.
 
I was never much of a fan of King's books and just couldn't ever get
into that moview.
graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca>: Jul 10 07:40AM -0600

On 2020-07-10 6:28 a.m., Gary wrote:
 
> totally screwed up the story. If I hadn't read the book
> first, I would have been fairly clueless to the actual
> story. The movie left out most of it.
 
I don't care!! That was one Saturday evening completely wasted! That was
a lousy film made from scraps on the cutting room floor.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 10 10:09AM -0400

graham wrote:
> > story. The movie left out most of it.
 
> I don't care!! That was one Saturday evening completely wasted! That was
> a lousy film made from scraps on the cutting room floor.
 
I agree with you, Graham. As I said, the book is very good
but that movie totally sucked.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 10 07:33AM -0700

On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 7:59:38 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
 
> I can understand now why it's so well known and remembered.
> As I know that movies are just a shadow of the real
> books, I'm going to look for this book and read it.
 
I didn't care for it. I just wanted to punch everybody's silly face.
 
Jane Eyre was good, though.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Nemo <nemo@nospamatnotime.org>: Jul 10 09:34AM -0500


> I can understand now why it's so well known and remembered.
> As I know that movies are just a shadow of the real books, I'm going to
> look for this book and read it.
 
"Jane Eyre" by her sister Charlotte is also a good read.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jul 10 10:36AM -0400

Nemo wrote:
> > As I know that movies are just a shadow of the real books, I'm going to
> > look for this book and read it.
 
> "Jane Eyre" by her sister Charlotte is also a good read.
 
Again, I've seen the movie but not read the book.
bruce2bowser@gmail.com: Jul 10 06:55AM -0700

On July 9, 2020 at 5:08PM -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>
wrote:
>On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 12:02:52 PM UTC-10, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Dairy cream isn't bad: "Some kinds of sour cream contain the bacteria and yeasts known as probiotics, which can help the digestion process" - Spruce Eats
 
>Lactose ain't good for a lot of "ethnic" type people. Asians have a lot of drinks that are probiotics. The easiest thing to do is to have a Yakult. Do black folks have probiotic products for them? Beats me.
 
Dairy can be consumed in very small amounts too, you know. The calcium is still necessary.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jul 10 07:05AM -0700

> >> Dairy cream isn't bad: "Some kinds of sour cream contain the bacteria and yeasts known as probiotics, which can help the digestion process" - Spruce Eats
 
> >Lactose ain't good for a lot of "ethnic" type people. Asians have a lot of drinks that are probiotics. The easiest thing to do is to have a Yakult. Do black folks have probiotic products for them? Beats me.
 
> Dairy can be consumed in very small amounts too, you know. The calcium is still necessary.
 
There are plenty of ways to get calcium that don't involve dairy.
 
<https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322585#non-dairy-sources-of-calcium>
 
Cindy Hamilton
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