Wednesday, January 6, 2021

Digest for rec.food.cooking@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 06 12:05PM -0500

On 1/5/2021 6:41 PM, Master Bruce wrote:
 
> Tortured factory chicken with ammonia soars served in a broth of
> tortured factory chicken with ammonia sores.
 
> And really cheap too!
 
The cheap (on sale) whole chickens or chicken parts have no ammonia
sores. You get to see what you're buying. The skins have no sores or cut
off parts.
 
Mistreated? Maybe but not necessarily.
 
You should think beyond what PITA tells you.
Lucretia Borgia <lucretiaborgia@fl.it>: Jan 06 08:31AM -0400

>home to cook, invite a couple of close friends or family. Spread
>newspaper on the picnic table and start opening them. The adults of
>course, washed them down with cold beer.
 
In Devon in the UK they had Dungeness crabs and you could buy it in
the market already cooked, cleaned and served rather like meat loaf.
When they packed it in the pan they filled the centre with roe and
coloured meat and the white surrounding it. It looked attractive and
was a lovely, lazy way to eat it. You purchased it by the slice.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 06 08:53AM -0500

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 17:27:20 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
 
>I found as a child that the lower it swims, the better it tastes!
 
>I love crabs and catfish! Always have.
 
>John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
 
Crabs and catfish are the Shit Eaters Of The Sea.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 06 12:05PM -0500

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> home to cook, invite a couple of close friends or family. Spread
> newspaper on the picnic table and start opening them. The adults of
> course, washed them down with cold beer.
 
One should never wash down a good meal with beer.
Also...you steamed those crabs live so you had a mess when eating them?
That's about as evil as it gets...steaming live crabs.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 06 12:03PM -0500

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> the other dominant flavors the roll is just a means to hold it. I've
> had them served as dinner rolls and have no interest in eating them like
> that.
 
And just for the record, the *original* Hawaiian rolls were sweet. They
do make at least one or two different varieties now. One is a dinner
roll that's not sweet.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 06 09:13AM -0500

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 18:31:39 -0800 (PST), "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
>> out of chuck pot roast." What is there still to discuss? :)
 
>It's beef that can sliced, if any is left over, to make sandwiches the next
>day. What is there still to discuss?
 
I use pot roast for sandwhiches all the time, when cold it slices
easily.
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 06 09:16AM -0500

On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 03:36:30 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
 
>I eat it cold, sliced, on bread spread with mayo and horseradish. Sometimes
>with a thin slice of onion.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
Me too, one of my favorite sandwhiches
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 06 12:03PM -0500

On 1/5/2021 10:07 PM, jmcquown wrote:
 
> Or, as I previously proposed, tender chuck roast which is more like
> shredded/stringy meat with gravy, spooned over open faced toasted buns
> or toasted rolls. A tasty hot beef sandwich, nothing left to discuss. :)
 
That said, a chuck roast slowly roasted in an oven tastes much better
than a chuck roast slowly boiled in water which you did.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 06 03:40AM -0800


> > No, it's not. You'd be shocked if you knew the amount of petroleum
> > by-products you use d.a.i.l.y.
> I'm talking about my personal transportation needs. I spend $0 weekly on gasoline! How much do YOU spend on petroleum a week to shuttle your butt around?
 
As much as I want. Sometimes I drive around when I don't need to,
just to burn more gasoline.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 06 09:24AM -0500

On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 03:40:28 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
 
>As much as I want. Sometimes I drive around when I don't need to,
>just to burn more gasoline.
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
Kootchie's 'lectric car is more of a gas guzzler than he thinks.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 06 12:02PM -0500

On 1/5/2021 9:38 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
 
>> No, it's not. You'd be shocked if you knew the amount of petroleum
>> by-products you use d.a.i.l.y.
 
> I'm talking about my personal transportation needs. I spend $0 weekly on gasoline!
 
Not true. You still have your 2nd vehicle (Baby2) that burns gas. You do
use it occasionally at least to keep it running. You might not buy gas
often for it but you do, and so much per week.
Gary <g.majors@att.net>: Jan 06 07:51AM -0500

Master Bruce wrote:
 
> I watched it. The cop clearly feared that the Blake guy was grabbing a
> weapon. The guy was ignoring police orders. He took the risk that he'd
> be shot. His own fault. There's no comparison to the Floyd case.
 
I'm surprised to hear you say that. I remember when it first happened
you argued with Ed about it. You thought it was excessive force.
 
But yes, I just saw the video again last night. The cop had his gun out
but the perp ignored his command to stop. They walked all the around the
car to the driver's door. Then the guy opened the door and lunged down
to his front seat. That's when the cop fired. For all he knew that guy
was reaching for a gun.
 
I would have shot then too as would any trained cop. It's not a
black/white thing either. That was an extreme dangerous situation for a cop.
 
I was very surprised that the guy survived to complain about it. That
piece of dirt should have died.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 06 09:39AM -0500

On 2021-01-06 7:51 a.m., Gary wrote:
> cop.
 
> I was very surprised that the guy survived to complain about it. That
> piece of dirt should have died.
 
It is unfortunate that there are so many people out there who choose to
ignore lawful commands from the police and end up being the authors of
their own misfortune. It troubles me to see the black community making
heroes of career criminals.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jan 06 09:50AM -0500

On 1/6/2021 9:39 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> ignore lawful commands from the police and end up being the authors of
> their own misfortune. It troubles me to see the black community making
> heroes of career criminals.
 
The police certainly make mistakes but 98% of these incidences could
have been easily avoided. Just stop, drop your weapon. They are not
rational people though, or they would never be in a situation that
requires police intervention to start with.
"itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jan 06 07:06AM -0800

On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 8:50:39 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> have been easily avoided. Just stop, drop your weapon. They are not
> rational people though, or they would never be in a situation that
> requires police intervention to start with.
 
https://i.postimg.cc/PrsFffMr/Stop.jpg
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca>: Jan 06 10:15AM -0500

On 2021-01-06 9:50 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> have been easily avoided.  Just stop, drop your weapon.  They are not
> rational people though, or they would never be in a situation that
> requires police intervention to start with.
 
Unfortunately, there have been several cases where guy were shot wh
should not have been. These are the guys who protestors should be
rallying behind.
 
Many of these events are caught on video. It is amazing how people can
watch the same videos and see things completely differently. Then there
is the problem of videos catching only what happened at the end. They
tend to miss the events that inspired people to record it.
 
Police shootings are very rare in this region, but there have been three
in the last year, two of them in the last week. Yesterday's happened in
Niagara on the Lake when police were trying to stop a car with a
suspected drunk driver. There ended up being about a dozen cop cars
involved and a spike strip used. There was some sort of altercation and
the guy was shot and later died.
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Jan 07 03:56AM +1100

>black/white thing either. That was an extreme dangerous situation for a cop.
 
>I was very surprised that the guy survived to complain about it. That
>piece of dirt should have died.
 
The cops weren't handling it professionally. They should just have
stopped him from getting into his car. But once he did, it was a
threatening situation. Do as the cops say, especially if they've
pulled a gun and are clearly afraid of you.
Master Bruce <masterbruce@null.null>: Jan 07 03:59AM +1100

On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 09:39:19 -0500, Dave Smith
>ignore lawful commands from the police and end up being the authors of
>their own misfortune. It troubles me to see the black community making
>heroes of career criminals.
 
Floyd was murdered. Cops shouldn't murder people.
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jan 06 09:53AM -0500

On 1/6/2021 6:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
 
> I dropped a piece of paper on the floor and picked it up.
 
> Exciting times in Ann Arbor!!!!!!!
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Can we get more details? Did you just bend over or did you squat with
your knees? I like to lean on something with one hand while picking up
the object with the other. Done wrong you could have a serious back
injury.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 06 07:06AM -0800

On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 9:53:17 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> your knees? I like to lean on something with one hand while picking up
> the object with the other. Done wrong you could have a serious back
> injury.
 
My knees don't work that way anymore.
 
If you must know, as soon as I bent over, I broke wind. Then my husband
complained.
 
Because he never does that.
 
Cindy Hamilton
Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.xxx>: Jan 06 10:59AM -0500

On 1/6/2021 10:06 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> complained.
 
> Because he never does that.
 
> Cindy Hamilton
 
Looking forward to the video!
John Kuthe <johnkuthern@gmail.com>: Jan 06 08:05AM -0800

On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 10:00:01 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
 
> > Because he never does that.
 
> > Cindy Hamilton
 
> Looking forward to the video!
 
The "Cindy Farts!" video! Now on Youtube! :-)
 
You know how many times a day the average man farts? 10-15.
You know how many times a day the average woman farts? 10-15.
 
We are NOT that different!
 
John Kuthe, RN, BSN
Sheldon Martin <penmart01@aol.com>: Jan 06 08:40AM -0500

On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 03:17:33 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
 
>> Pulled pork is what dumb southerners do with over cooked pork roasts.
 
>To what temperature do you recommend cooking pork shoulder?
 
>Cindy Hamilton
 
Pork roasts to 170ºF at 350ºF.
With all roasts:
I use an oven thermometer and a meat thermometer.
I also check in a few places with an insta-read thermometer.
I set an oven shelf so that the roast is at the center of the oven.
I don't often roast pork shoulder, it's better for grinding... for
sausage or pattys. My favorite pork roast is a center cut loin on the
rib bones with the chine bone removed... but I also roast boneless
pork loin, whole ones are usually on sale for under $2 lb, they can
weigh ~12 lbs, I'll make 3 roasts from one... good hot but very good
cold, sliced thin for sandwhiches.
The thought of pulled pork makes me wretch, it's like dog food.
Cindy Hamilton <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com>: Jan 06 06:09AM -0800

On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 8:40:25 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
 
> >To what temperature do you recommend cooking pork shoulder?
 
> >Cindy Hamilton
> Pork roasts to 170ºF at 350ºF.
 
I'm not sure that would be enough to break down the connective tissue
in a shoulder. It would be tough as hell.
 
> pork loin, whole ones are usually on sale for under $2 lb, they can
> weigh ~12 lbs, I'll make 3 roasts from one... good hot but very good
> cold, sliced thin for sandwhiches.
 
Not really relevant to cooking shoulder, then. I cook pork loin to
145 F or perhaps just a bit more. Pink and juicy.
 
> The thought of pulled pork makes me wretch, it's like dog food.
 
Retch, not wretch. Although you are wretched.
 
Cindy Hamilton
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